Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
What about someone like me who no longer believes? Do I still get grace? Is the unchangeable God's grace unwavering, or does it come and go depending on human belief?
I refer you to 2 Timothy 2:13: "If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself." Also worth considering is Numbers 23:19: "God is not a man that he should lie, nor hen have a laugh about it in eternity? Or does the book of life come with a big ass eraser?
Look at the Timothy verse again. I think it is not about life eternal or perishing. It is about
reigning with Him or not. That is reigning with Him in the coming millennial kingdom of 1,000 years before the eternal age (See Rev. 20). The letter is addressed to a saved disciple and should be understood that way.
Within the context it says:
"If we endure, we shall also reign with Him; if we deny Him, He also will deny us;
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself"
Reigning with Him is a distinct matter from having eternal salvation.
Reigning with Him is dependent upon endurance.
If we deny Him He will also deny us.
To deny Him is also to become
faithless. How can you deny Him unless you have become faithless? That is as a saved disciple.
If we are faithless (i.e. denying Him) He remains faithful for He cannot deny Himself.
In other words, for the believer in Christ, he can lose the reward of reigning with Christ, but Christ, though denying him this reward, remains faithful to him for eternal salvation. That is He cannot deny Himself.
That's how I understand that passage. Once you are born of God you cannot be unborn of God. He remains faithful to that organic relationship in life. He cannot deny Himself, even though the backslidder may temporarily deny Him and lose the reward of co-reigning with Christ in the millennial kingdom.