01 Apr '13 22:46>1 edit
Originally posted by kd2aczWe can't prove there is no god any more than you can prove there is. It is a pointless pursuit. From my POV it would be an insane god the bible alleges. This alleged deity has too many human characteristics to be a god. It is clear to me the whole thing is made up by men for men and against women, to control and to build a political power base. Leviticus 27 proves it for me to my satisfaction but religious people have no end to the ability to rationalize, so thoroughly brainwashed they are by thousands of years of relentless dogma.
I like how you did that... very clever, I have to disagree with your whole premise however. You are using my statement to shutdown the question of the OP. I don't expect your answer to depend on anything I say or believe, that would be a bit dynamic. God not limited to man's reasoning, thats my belief, I already know you have issues with that, no biggie.
elief in God is substantiated by something, like proof.
Can you prove there is no God?
For instance the bible tells the time Jesus raises hell in the temple where he finds gambling and so forth. But this god said nothing about the later selling of indulgences by Catholic priests centuries later. Oh, you are going to tell me about free will, right? If so, why did your god go ballistic when encountering commerce in the temple? Why at THAT time and no other? To me it just says man made all over it.
All you have for the prophecies about the coming Christ is self fulfillment, knowing there was a prophecy and deciding it was time for it to come about. That is not fulfilling a prophecy, that is deception of the lowest order.
The concept of 'original sin' is especially heinous, the most filthy concept of the entire sick edifice of christianity. What a way to strike fear and self loathing in children. And adults. Brilliant actually but in no way driven by some god. Or if it was driven by a god, it is an absolutely insane god I would cringe away from if presented to it.
I can't deny the possible existence of a god or gods since we are all just human and have no supernatural aspects, we have just ourselves inside our skin and nothing more.
Another thing that riles me is the assumption we are above all animals and if there is a god who designed us that we could have come about by a god setting things up in such a way we would come about by evolution just as scientists have seen.
Nothing in my mind is more stupid than thinking the world and the entire universe, is something like 6k years old. It is beyond my ability to comprehend how individuals in the 21st century after several hundred years of clear advancement of science, how they can reject ALL of that work when it comes to the idea the universe and the Earth can be older than a few thousand years when all you have to do is look at the moon through a telescope and see the millions of craters there, or look at the ice core data and count the layers that we know comes year by year quite faithfully and we can count back a hundred thousand years or more.
Or how they can claim the grand canyon came from "the" flood and ignoring the fact the layers the so-called flood dug through took millions of years to accumulate. All of that stuff could not possibly have happened in such a short time.
As clear as the nose on your face, yet in their cognitive dissonance, they reject ALL scientific diligent work of the last 200 years yet readily believe in everything else developed by science using the exact same underlying structure of sussing out truth. Only in the area where science refutes such absolute BS as young earthers want to have us believe do they put down the evidence of generations of genius.
Don't confuse me with facts, my (so-called) mind is made up.