@sonship saidThere must millions of privileged planets all over the universe. If not, then there is no God. If it is true that God has always existed, for billions of years, it cannot be that this same God who created millions of galaxies, only created one measly planet with life. Maybe each and every galaxy have their own version of a Saviour. You do not know these things. Its all speculation but it more likely that the universe is full of intelligent life, some millions of years ahead of us.
@Suzianne
Hello,
Though all things were created for and unto Christ His word was to go to "all the nations" not to go to all the worlds to preach the gospel. (At least at this time?)
" . . . All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and disciple all the nations, . . ." (Matt. 28:19)
Had He meant go to all the pl ...[text shortened]... rated by John Rhys-Davies [/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SEUtPEGAM&ab_channel=DouglasFuchs
There must millions of privileged planets all over the universe. If not, then there is no God. If it is true that God has always existed, for billions of years, it cannot be that this same God who created millions of galaxies, only created one measly planet with life. Maybe each and every galaxy have their own version of a Saviour. You do not know these things. Its all speculation but it more likely that the universe is full of intelligent life, some millions of years ahead of us.
The other way to view it is that God purposely created an environment that would speak of human uniqueness in an overwhelmingly impressive way.
God, foreknowing that man would take a Satan's way of independence, allotted him time to grow and grow his knowledge about the universe. And as it increased as it has, the evidence of the specialty of our race is increasingly evidenced to the point that we would humbly bow in worship and acknowledged we are His special creation on a special place for His very special purpose.
God transcends time. God looked out over the ages and the mounting knowledge man would gain. He beforehand arranged the universe to testify to us the centrality of the being made in the image and likeness of God.
He knew that in our state of fallen rebellion we would learn more and more. He preemptively created all things with that prospect in view.
Back to the matter of Everyone who judges.
Compare two men:
1.) This man lived 3000 years ago. He has cheated on his wife and flirted with his neighbor's wife trying to steal away her devotion to her husband.
He doesn't know anything about the number of planets, the nature of stars, micro waves, black holes, gravity waves, the Higg's particle, or quantum entanglement.
2.) This man lives in 2021 AD (alright CE). He also is cheating on his wife. He also is committing adultery with another man's wife to the ruination of two families.
This guy knows all about quantum entanglement, the Higgs boson, microwave background radiation, the Big Bang, multi-verse theory, artificial Intelligence, and radiation therapy.
Which one of these two will be with better reasons to justify himself should he come before God in judgment for his sins? Why will one you choose be of more advantage then the other?
@sonship saidHave you not read Pauls answer to that?
Back to the matter of Everyone who judges.
Compare two men:
1.) This man lived 3000 years ago. He has cheated on his wife and flirted with his neighbor's wife trying to steal away her devotion to her husband.
He doesn't know anything about the number of planets, the nature of stars, micro waves, black holes, gravity waves, the Higg's particle, ...[text shortened]... e before God in judgment for his sins? Why will one you choose be of more advantage then the other?
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. (Romans 2:13 KJV)
@sonship saidSorry, but that really is a very poor argument. (On so many levels).
The other way to view it is that God purposely created an environment that would speak of human uniqueness in an overwhelmingly impressive way.
@suzianne saidThis line of argument was really intended for Sonship who would place these 'other sheep' on Earth, not on other planets.
"As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
"Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
"No man taketh it from me, but ...[text shortened]... ment have I received of my Father." -- John 10:15-18, KJV
We know nothing of His "other sheep".
This raises a problem for Sonship should other sentient life be discovered on another planet, and only the followers of Jesus here on Earth being saved. (Hardly the actions of a just God).
This raises a problem for Sonship should other sentient life be discovered on another planet, and only the followers of Jesus here on Earth being saved. (Hardly the actions of a just God).
You're right. I mean how in the world do I explain then . . . Star Trek?
Fine tuning is your problem. And that's why you run from the video.
You should be more scientific minded for a modern man.
BLINDERS ON!!
The Privileged Planet
&ab_channel=USAHavana
@sonship saidWhy do you think you need to explain anything? You need to stick with what the bible says clearly. This is your failing in all aspects of bible doctrine. God created the man and the earth, thats it. The how and when is irrelevant. If you concentrated on that and allow science suggest the how and the when, they would respect you more as a professed man or God [allegedly]
@Ghost-of-a-DukeThis raises a problem for Sonship should other sentient life be discovered on another planet, and only the followers of Jesus here on Earth being saved. (Hardly the actions of a just God).
You're right. I mean how in the world do I explain then . . . Star Trek?
Fine tuning is your problem. And that's why you run from the video.
...[text shortened]... The Privileged Planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIc42oRjm8&ab_channel=USAHavana
A man on planet Earth in the Solar System in the Milky Way Galazy trying to explain what is going in the other distant galaxies is like an amoeba in China trying to understand what is going on in the USA. Its not possible for anyone to wrap their mind around. Our brains are too small.
@sonship saidLife on other planets isn't Star Trek. It's simply the certain reality of an immense universe. (2 billion galaxies or more).
@Ghost-of-a-DukeThis raises a problem for Sonship should other sentient life be discovered on another planet, and only the followers of Jesus here on Earth being saved. (Hardly the actions of a just God).
You're right. I mean how in the world do I explain then . . . Star Trek?
Fine tuning is your problem. And that's why you run from the video.
...[text shortened]... The Privileged Planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIc42oRjm8&ab_channel=USAHavana
If you seriously want to watch a meaningful video, then start with this. (I don't mind if you don't but it sums up my position).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Saw it from start to finish.
Interesting that the moderator does imagine civilizations one million times more advanced then earth civilization. But for reasons of his own human conscience says in essence "Maybe they look at us and see how badly we've behaved. And they think it is better not to contact these failures."
In other words big intellect is not the ONLY thing man needs to be worthy bring creation under control. A man totally in harmony with the righteousness, the holiness, and the glory of God is the One Who should be head over all things.
"And they came near and roused Him, saying, Lord, save us; we are perishing.
And He said to them, Why are you cowardly, you of little faith? Then He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.
And the men marveled, saying, What kind of man is this that even the winds and the sea obey Him? " (Matt. 8:26,27)
You don't see the connection. At best you see weird miscellaneous unbelievable myths. Your unbelief doesn't grasp the big picture. By His sheer mercy, I do.
"But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matt. 6:33)
I feel sorry for those whose hardened minds and hearts simply cannot see the larger picture. God's kingdom and His righteousness is the master key to all else humankind needs for eternity.
@sonship saidIf they are more advanced than us, it is more likely it is their prime directive not to intervene with our primitive development.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Saw it from start to finish.
Interesting that the moderator does imagine civilizations one million times more advanced then earth civilization. But for reasons of his own human conscience says in essence "Maybe they look at us and see how badly we've behaved. And they think it is better not to contact these failures."
You know, like in Star Trek.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere are prime directives in the bible which Christians mostly ignore. the two main ones are to replenish the Earth and to do good works. You never hear Christians speak of either. Instead [like sonship] you will hear longwinded irrelevant ranting about everything else under the sun.
If they are more advanced than us, it is more likely it is their prime directive not to intervene with our primitive development.
You know, like in Star Trek.
Bumping to hear from someone else.
I mean . . . someone else.
Back to the matter of Everyone who judges.
Compare two men:
1.) This man lived 3000 years ago. He has cheated on his wife and flirted with his neighbor's wife trying to steal away her devotion to her husband.
He doesn't know anything about the number of planets, the nature of stars, micro waves, black holes, gravity waves, the Higg's particle, or quantum entanglement.
2.) This man lives in 2021 AD (alright CE). He also is cheating on his wife. He also is committing adultery with another man's wife to the ruination of two families.
This guy knows all about quantum entanglement, the Higgs boson, microwave background radiation, the Big Bang, multi-verse theory, artificial Intelligence, and radiation therapy.