Originally posted by @sonship Without knowing all the particulars of your testimony, it seems divegeester's comments are cruel. Some of us are sorry we have to see such overboard cruelty.
I'm sorry.
(Now something may be said about my space aliens and torture in chains. But I never put I filled in the blank with someone's name here, I don't think).
DIvegeester has a tendency using personal attacks on the posters that he disagrees with. It is strange behavior to say the least.
Originally posted by @dj2becker Who is in a better position to know whether or not the things I have claimed about my sister and my past are true? You or me? I have no reason for lying about any of it.
We have been over this before and I’m not interested in doing it again. My point was to Josephw.
Originally posted by @sonship Yes. On your behalf and for all readers who have to have read that, I am sorry we have such verbal cruelty going on here.
But I can forgive you in the Lord.
But I’m not asking him, you, or all readers for forgiveness, I stand by what I posted which was an honest and frank assessment of the poster fetchmyjunk/dj2becker.
Perhaps “all readers” will want to comment on you providing vicarious forgiveness on their behalf. Perhaps your pious intercession is not sought nor welcome.
Originally posted by @dj2becker Insulting other posters is a sign of weak-mindedness if you ask me.
I'll mention this theory of yours when you next insult a fellow poster.
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Freedom ...
Freedom is in the experience of Christ.
Some people were asked to draw a scene and call it Peace.
One person drew a beautiful sunset.
Another person drew a calm lake.
Another person painted a snowy white hill in the twilight.
Then one person painted the scene of a tumultuous and thunderous waterfall. Tons of water plunging violently over a cliff pounding down in torrents of splashes and mists below. And in front of the waterfall was a branch. And on the branch was a little bird asleep. This she called "Peace".
The point was made of peace starting not from the outward circumstances but inwardly present in spite of outward circumstances.
It is the same with Freedom. He who the Son sets free will be free indeed from the center and kernel of his being, regardless of circumstances, first.
Originally posted by @sonship to divegeester On your behalf and for all readers who have to have read that, I am sorry we have such verbal cruelty going on here. But I can forgive you in the Lord.
I've seen the likes of josephw attempt "verbal cruelty" on a regular basis for many many years. I cannot once recall you intervening and apologizing to other people on his behalf. Not once.
Originally posted by @dj2becker Well it certainly shows a lack of empathy. I thought empathy was one of the pillars of your moral sensibilities?
I think both you and jospehw are a couple of self-righteous, weakminded, jerks ~ quite unlike most of the Christians I have met during my life's journey. This is an assessment - an insult, if you wish to call it that - that I can make regardless of whatever capacity for empathy I might have upon my adult's palette of interpersonal skills. No part of any definition of "empathy" precludes one from speaking candidly and honestly when one deems it appropriate.
Originally posted by @fmf I think both you and jospehw are a couple of self-righteous, weakminded, jerks ~ quite unlike most of the Christians I have met during my life's journey. This is an assessment - an insult, if you wish to call it that - that I can make regardless of whatever capacity for empathy I might have upon my adult's palette of interpersonal skills. No part of any definit ...[text shortened]... on of "empathy" precludes one from speaking candidly and honestly when one deems it appropriate.
Self righteous because we believe that we are just as sinful as the next person and weak minded because we believe in God. Sure.
Originally posted by @dj2becker Self righteous because we believe that we are just as sinful as the next person and weak minded because we believe in God. Sure.
No, self-righteous as in "having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior"; and weakminded as in "lacking intellectual capacity" [to which I would add a lack of interpersonal skills]. I have met countless people who believe in "sin" and who believe in supernatural beings who I haven't found to be self-righteous and weakminded at all. So it's not about your beliefs, it's about how you conduct yourselves and your intellectual and interpersonal shortcomings.
Originally posted by @fmf No, self-righteous as in "having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior"; and weakminded as in "lacking intellectual capacity" [to which I would add a lack of interpersonal skills]. I have met countless people who believe in "sin" and who believe in supernatural beings who I haven't found to ...[text shortened]... efs, it's about how you conduct yourselves and your intellectual and interpersonal shortcomings.
'Unfounded' according to your subjective opinion, which you seem to be applying to me as if it were an objective standard. No intellectual shortcomings or self righteousness there.
02 Nov '17 06:28
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