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Originally posted by Bosse de NagePoor chap. :'(
Atheists are just plain mean to God.
Originally posted by NordlysYour disbelief is based on something, or the lack thereof. You cannot have a specific disbelief about some nebulous unnamed non-entity. The naming of the entity demands a decision.
I don't know how you get from a lack of belief to "rejection". How is it even possible to reject something that you don't believe is there? If I don't believe I have any milk in the fridge, do I reject the milk (that may or may not be there)? To me, rejection of God would mean that I believe God exists, but I don't want anything to do with him. Rejection of the milk in my fridge would probably make me pour it into the drain.
Originally posted by jaywillInteresting. When I think of a wanderer (who may also be a wonderer) or a nomad, I have completely different associations. I doubt nomads feel lost or alienated from the earth. I believe that a life in a city alienates people a lot more from what you would call God's creation. Personally, I feel most connected to the earth when I am going hiking; and even if I may sometimes feel lost in the sense of not exactly knowing where I am and where the path I am walking on will lead me, I don't feel lost in the sense that I don't feel I belong.
Agerg, I think you wrote:
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the most-asked question: [Where and why do we need to invoke "God"?]
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Note that under your tag you have written "Wonderer ... Nomad". And below that you have written "Wherever I may roam"
You know, not knowing God personall ...[text shortened]... utility.
Then we can "come home" and feel at home with God and in His creation.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWhile the 'a' certainly comes first in the word, it is heavily dependent upon the 'theist' part--- more so than the other way around.
Amazing how Christians in the Spirituality forum feel they need to define themselves in terms of atheism.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHBut things only exist in relation to nothing. Things are just the universe's way of making nothing not be there... maybe......
Only in relation to things. Zero is an expression of those things not being there.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI don't see what this has to do with my post. Of course there needs to be some sort of definition of the thing you don't believe in before you can say "I don't believe in this" (although anyone who would never have heard about this wouldn't believe in it either, but they wouldn't be aware of it and thus be passive non-believers). In case of atheism, the definitions usually come from theists who talk about their gods. If I don't believe that there is a real being behind their ideas, I don't reject an entity, I just don't believe that it exists in the first place. Some of those gods sound nice enough, so I probably wouldn't reject them if I was given sufficient evidence to believe that they exist. Others (including many versions of the Christian God) I would probably reject if I'd believe in them.
Your disbelief is based on something, or the lack thereof. You cannot have a specific disbelief about some nebulous unnamed non-entity. The naming of the entity demands a decision.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatMaths is far from safe.
But things only exist in relation to nothing. Things are just the universe's way of making nothing not be there... maybe......
And we could get all sciencey and talk about the partial pressure of a vacuum 'n stuff, discounting the presence of nothing entirely...
Or stay safely in maths.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe very nature of atheism is its statement regarding any deity.
I forget: was your post supposed to be an example of sloppy reasoning, or was it mine?
[b]The term 'atheism' may well rely on some idea of god(s) in the sense that it can be defined as an absence of theism, which in turn can be defined in terms of belief in god(s).
"May?" There is no "may" to the proposition. Atheism is a rejection of any form of our day job.[/b]
I guess I'll have to remain Phlabby's roadie for the time being...[/b]