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@kingdavid403 said
More abusive language when your references dont stand up.
Abusive language? Please don't pick up your toys and go home...
when your references dont stand up.
It's good for all to know here, that God's Holy Word does not "stand up" for you.
Here is the story

And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers, And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city, (Acts 16:16-20 KJV)

Here are the players
Paul
The woman medium
The people who gained from her psychic abilities

Who are the evil ones ?
The bible says those who use mediums are evil
There is no passage where the mediums themselves are evil


If you find one then I will be happy to have a read of that passage and retract that statement.

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@rajk999 said
Remember the story about Paul and the woman with the spirit of divination. These people have gifts from God. They are not evil and sinful. God does not hate these people.

It is greedy people who abuse these gifted people.
Remember the story about Paul and the woman with the spirit of divination. Yes I do, please tell us all the ending of that meeting.

These people have gifts from God.
I agree.
They are not evil and sinful.
We are ALL evil and sinful at times.

God does not hate these people
Where did I say that? Does God hate you when you sin?

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@rajk999 said
Here is the story

[i]And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, tur ...[text shortened]... ]

If you find one then I will be happy to have a read of that passage and retract that statement.
But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
Why was Paul grieved?
Why did Paul command the spirit to come out of her in the Name of Jesus? huh Dive?
I don't care what you do with your liars statement.

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@kingdavid403 said
But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
Why was Paul grieved?
Why did Paul command the spirit to come out of her in the Name of Jesus? huh Dive?
I don't care what you do with your statement.
Paul was grieved because the MEN were doing wrong things and abusing this girl. The girl was actually a good person and told people thatPaul and SIlas were from God - ... These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. (Acts 16:17 KJV) .

Does that sound like mediums are demons or of Satan as you claim?

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@rajk999 said
Paul was grieved because the MEN were doing wrong things and abusing this girl. The girl was actually a good person and told people thatPaul and SIlas were from God - ... These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. (Acts 16:17 KJV) .

Does that sound like mediums are demons or of Satan as you claim?
Paul was grieved because the MEN were doing wrong things and abusing this girl.
Please show us the scripture for this statement? Again, you have no idea what you're talking about; as usual.
The girl was actually a good person

Please show us the scriptures for this statement?
Does that sound like mediums are demons or of Satan as you claim?[
Please show us all where I claimed that mediums are demons of Satan?

Let's get back to the opened graves when Jesus gave up His Spirit? Shall we. Let's hear all your lies that this did not happen either?


@kingdavid403 said
Paul was grieved because the MEN were doing wrong things and abusing this girl.
Please show us the scripture for this statement? Again, you have no idea what you're talking about; as usual.
The girl was actually a good person

Please show us the scriptures for this statement?
[b]Does that sound like mediums are demons or of Satan as you claim?[ ...[text shortened]... when Jesus gave up His Spirit? Shall we. Let's hear all your lies that this did not happen either?
Lets not do any such thing. This topic is of no interest to me really and I already spent too much time on it. So see you in the next topic..

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@rajk999 said
Lets not do any such thing. This topic is of no interest to me really and I already spent too much time on it. So see you in the next topic..
Because you're wrong, and got proven so. Bye... πŸ™‚


@kingdavid403 said
Because you're wrong, and got proven so. Bye... πŸ™‚
Man! Don't you know that Rajk is always right about everything and has never been proven wrong? 😏

According to Rajk bad people are good, and good people are bad.
People that go to church are bad. People that call themselves Christians are bad. Rajk hasn't been to church in 40 years, and he's a good person because of it. Rajk is a follower of Jesus, and doesn't refer to himself as a Christian. Rajk is good. 😊

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@vivify said
Do any of you believe in ghosts?
What ghosts?

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Sounds more conceptual than experiential.

That you mentioned yourself three times in such a short sentence is really just par for the course, isn't it?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think somebody has probably died in most houses. (Especially old ones).

Personally, I don't believe in ghosts but the incidents you described are difficult to explain. That said, I am certain there is a reasonable (and natural) explanation, even if that explanation isn't apparent.
The reason cats like boxes is that they think Cartesianism is cute. πŸ˜‰


@ghost-of-a-duke said
I don't believe anybody has psychic abilities. There are always other things going on.
I wouldn't go that far, but I would agree that there are many charlatans pretending to be psychics or mediums.

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I appreciate the few posts re: direct, personal experiences.

What is wrong with those scriptural spitball fighters?


@kevin-eleven said
I appreciate the few posts re: direct, personal experiences.

What is wrong with those scriptural spitball fighters?
They have dogmas to defend.

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@moonbus said
They have dogmas to defend.
Dogmas? Sounds like the wolves are in charge of the furless monkeys.