@Rajk999
Maybe. The human body generates energies, and I don't mean just body heat through metabolism. The human body generates electromagnetic energy, and this can be measured, for example by poorly-named lie detectors and better-named computertomographs and MRI imaging devices. My wife's a neuroradiologist; she looks at brain scans all day. It's real, it can be quantified.
We know that sharks have sense organs which detect energies underwater radiated by their prey, not light and not sound, but something else. Bats can detect energies quite beyond our range, and many insects and birds can detect polarized light in the sky. Some people claim to see people's auras. Why not? Maybe they are receptive to ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum to which most people are blind. I can almost imagine that we are immersed in these energies all the time but only some people are receptive to them.
@moonbus saidOf course, and that MRI technology cannot be more than 30 to 40 yrs old. With the exponential increase in the ability of technology to see and do stuff in the last few years, imagine what will happen in another 30 yrs. We might have access to goggles that can see people for who/what they are. 😀
@Rajk999
Maybe. The human body generates energies, and I don't mean just body heat through metabolism. The human body generates electromagnetic energy, and this can be measured, for example by poorly-named lie detectors and better-named computertomographs and MRI imaging devices. My wife's a neuroradiologist; she looks at brain scans all day. It's real, it can be quantifie ...[text shortened]... ine that we are immersed in these energies all the time but only some people are receptive to them.
@moonbus saidI don't believe anybody has psychic abilities. There are always other things going on.
Moreover, very similar experiences are recounted in similar terms by people in all cultures in all time periods throughout history. I know what some people will say: it's imagination or hallucinations. While some of these experiences could be explained (explained away), I don't believe all of them can be. There remains a hard core of genuinely strange and unexplained phenomen ...[text shortened]... pt it at face value, where the claims can be independently verified (as I was sometimes able to do).
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@rajk999 saidGhosts are a biblical concept.
Ghosts are a biblical concept. The idea is that the soul continues to live on after death and goes somewhere, and can be called upon and communicated with, by certain people. That they can be inhabiting certain parts of the world is not farfetched at all. But they are like bigfoot, too many people claim to have seen them when they actually did not.
King Saul calling the Prophet Samuel through a Medium, after Samuel's fleshly death, is a perfect example, etc.
@kingdavid403 saidOf course. It is funny that many Christians deny that this happened. But then they deny more critical things in the bible. However, God said not to mess with these people and that is the key. People can do lots of weird stuff, but the truly God fearing should not turn to these people for help.
Ghosts are a biblical concept.
King Saul calling the Prophet Samuel through a Medium, after Samuel's fleshly death, is a perfect example, etc.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI believe that there are some such people. But there are many cases where people are not psychic but just gifted with insight, knowledge and foresight [Dr House type] and use that knowledge to predict stuff.
I don't believe anybody has psychic abilities. There are always other things going on.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI think that's a function of language. We don't have the proper words yet to describe what's going on. I think there is such a thing as psychic energy, as moonbus said, produced by the mind, and it is possible that ghosts are a manifestation or, perhaps better said, a recording left behind in the environmental substrate.
I don't believe anybody has psychic abilities. There are always other things going on.
I had a great aunt who had a haunted house. This was in Kansas. It was a great big house, perhaps a hundred-plus years old, some think it was a boarding house at one time. I was there several times growing up, and many times I either saw or heard strange things, but every manifestation I encountered there seemed like a recording. There were many sightings of a woman climbing the stairs and she would always turn at the top of the stairs into a bedroom, often passing right through the door if it were closed. I often heard, always at night, in the early am, sounds of a bottle rolling across the floor in the upstairs bathroom. My father always swore that there was a full-length mirror at the end of the upstairs hallway and he said he often saw the reflection of a man looking into it and adjusting his hat. The thing is, there was no mirror in that place at the end of the hallway. We often heard doors closing upstairs when we knew there was no one up there. One of the rooms upstairs was always colder than the rest of the house, and I never wanted to go in there, because I would often see a large great horned owl that would turn and look at me. That creeped me out, because no one else ever said they saw it. We would smell pipe tobacco smoke upstairs randomly coming from one of the rooms, but it kept switching what room it was in. It was a very weird house, perhaps with a lot of leftover psychic energy.
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@vivify saidGhosts are a product of human consciousness. They are the images of dead people seen in dreams. Primitive people's were afraid these 'ghosts' they saw in their dreams were people risen from the dead, hence many primitive graves feature corpses bound with rope to prevent them from reappearing.
Do any of you believe in ghosts?
Today we understand dreams aren't real and can make sense of this. Apart from people who believe in ghost's that is.
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@rajk999 saidHowever, God said not to mess with these people and that is the key.
Of course. It is funny that many Christians deny that this happened. But then they deny more critical things in the bible. However, God said not to mess with these people and that is the key. People can do lots of weird stuff, but the truly God fearing should not turn to these people for help.
Yes. Look what happened to King Saul after seeking a Medium; Nothing but problems the rest of his life because of that.
@rajk999 saidProphets, etc.
I believe that there are some such people. But there are many cases where people are not psychic but just gifted with insight, knowledge and foresight [Dr House type] and use that knowledge to predict stuff.
@rajk999 saidThere is but one example of a ghost coming and God was involved that I am aware of. Everyone goes to a place waiting for judgment day. I believe in a spiritual involvement of what looks like people but I believe every one of those are demonic.
Ghosts are a biblical concept. The idea is that the soul continues to live on after death and goes somewhere, and can be called upon and communicated with, by certain people. That they can be inhabiting certain parts of the world is not farfetched at all. But they are like bigfoot, too many people claim to have seen them when they actually did not.
@kellyjay saidI believe every one of those are demonic.
There is but one example of a ghost coming and God was involved that I am aware of. Everyone goes to a place waiting for judgment day. I believe in a spiritual involvement of what looks like people but I believe every one of those are demonic.
You may be correct here. However, it's still paranormal activity, or "ghost" activity, according to our current understanding.
@kellyjay saidYou believe and you think and thats nice. Regarding the matter of ghosts we are going with what the bible says, and there is nothing in the bible about 'demonic' .. but then its KJ and his church opinions.
There is but one example of a ghost coming and God was involved that I am aware of. Everyone goes to a place waiting for judgment day. I believe in a spiritual involvement of what looks like people but I believe every one of those are demonic.
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@rajk999 saidbut then its KJ and his church opinions.
You believe and you think and thats nice. Regarding the matter of ghosts we are going with what the bible says, and there is nothing in the bible about 'demonic' .. but then its KJ and his church opinions.
I guess you missed the part where I said "you MAY (might) be correct."
You also missed the part where 'I do not attend Church; and have not for several years now.'
As far as being demonic, King Saul had many mental and physical problems after he sought a Medium. For some reason, I don't find that as a Godly consequence of God's First Anointed King of Israel.
Question: Could Satan make himself look like a "ghost" of Samuel to someone?
@kingdavid403 saidI was replying to KJ, not you. You realised that ... right ?
but then its KJ and his church opinions.
I guess you missed the part where I said "you MAY (might) be correct."
You also missed the part where 'I do not attend Church; and have not for several years now.'
As far as being demonic, King Saul had many mental and physical problems after he sought a Medium. For some reason, I don't find that as a Godly consequence ...[text shortened]... there, and more...
Question: Could Satan make himself look like a "ghost" of Samuel to someone?
The questions is pointless. Of what importance it is whether or not Satan made himself look like a ghost?