@kingdavid403 saidI do not need to know which church. I know what churches preach. Been there.
If she is a medium, and God says: 'stay away from mediums because they are evil in My Sight;' then It's fairly safe to assume, that she was not a Godly woman, that does evil in the Sight of God. 🙄
Which "church doctrine" is that? I did not add anything but common sense; your problem maybe?
Do you have a reference for this? .. ... God says: 'stay away from mediums because they are evil in My Sight .. ? Thanks
You are just adding nonsense to the scripture and its all your church indoctrination coming out, because Im asking for references and so far you have produced nothing.
Ask me for a reference for what I said and you will see the difference ... I post it immediately or I withdraw that statement
@moonbus saidOne was OT with King Saul and Samuel the other after Jesus died, the graves emptied. The disciples when it happened to them were confused because Jesus was raised, He ate with them to show He was not just a spirit.
@KellyJay
If I Recall the gospels correctly, when the risen Jesus reportedly appeared to his disciples, they wanted to put their fingers in his wounds, presumably to assure themselves that what they were seeing was not an apparition or a ghost. Ghosts are never reported to have any substance to them. So clearly, the concept of a ghost or apparition was known in those times.
@rajk999 saidDo you have a reference for this? .. ... God says: 'stay away from mediums because they are evil in My Sight .. ? Thanks;
I do not need to know which church. I know what churches preach. Been there.
Do you have a reference for this? .. ... God says: 'stay away from mediums because they are evil in My Sight .. ? Thanks
You are just adding nonsense to the scripture and its all your church indoctrination coming out, because Im asking for references and so far you have produced no ...[text shortened]... r what I said and you will see the difference ... I post it immediately or I withdraw that statement
[Leviticus 19:31 NKJV] 31 'Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I [am] the LORD your God."
[Leviticus 20:6 NKJV] 6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people."
[2nd Kings 21:6 NKJV] 6 "Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke [Him] to anger."
[2nd Kings 23:24 NKJV] 24 Moreover Josiah put away those who consulted mediums and spiritists, the household gods and idols, all the abominations that were seen in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the LORD.
[2nd Chronicles 33:6 NKJV] 6 "Also he caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; he practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger."
Anything else?
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@kingdavid403 saidI'm still waiting...
Do you have a reference for this? .. ... God says: 'stay away from mediums because they are evil in My Sight .. ? Thanks;
[Leviticus 19:31 NKJV] 31 'Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I [am] the LORD your God."
[Leviticus 20:6 NKJV] 6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spir ...[text shortened]... and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger."
Anything else?
You said the bible says God said these mediums are evil in his sight.
You are producing references that show it is the people who consult with mediums ... they are the evil ones.
Do you realise that?
@rajk999 said@rajk999 said
Graves emptied? What a weird statement.
I wont ask for a reference.
Graves emptied? What a weird statement.
I wont ask for a reference.
When Jesus died on the Cross, graves and tombs were opened and many that had died came out alive.
[Matthew 27:50-53 NKJV] 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.
@rajk999 saidSome people just cannot accept God's Truth; even when it slaps them in the face. lol... Keep waiting, maybe hold your breath and I'll get back to ya dummy. lol...
I'm still waiting...
You said the bible says God said these mediums are evil in his sight.
You are producing references that show it is the people who consult with mediums ... they are the evil ones.
Do you realise that?
@kingdavid403 saidGraves emptied?
@rajk999 said
Graves emptied? What a weird statement.
I wont ask for a reference.
When Jesus died on the Cross, graves and tombs were opened and many that had died came out alive.
[Matthew 27:50-53 NKJV] 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bott ...[text shortened]... ing out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.
@kingdavid403 saidMore abusive language when your references dont stand up.
Some people just cannot accept God's Truth; even when it slaps them in the face. lol... Keep waiting, maybe hold your breath and I'll get back to ya dummy. lol...
Your references state the people who consult mediums did evil.
@rajk999 saidYep, that's what happened. Can't you tell by reading the Bible that you know so well?
Graves emptied?
Bump..."and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many."
@rajk999 saidMore abusive language when your references dont stand up.
More abusive language when your references dont stand up.
Your references state the people who consult mediums did evil.
Abusive language? Please don't pick up your toys and go home...
when your references dont stand up.
It's good for all to know here, that God's Holy Word does not "stand up" for you.
@kingdavid403 saidThe ability to read and comprehend is not as common as one might think
More abusive language when your references dont stand up.
Abusive language? Please don't pick up your toys and go home...
when your references dont stand up.
It's good for all to know here, that God's Holy Word does not "stand up" for you.
You said that God said that mediums are evil in his sight.
You produce references which say that people who consult with mediums are evil or did evil in the sight of God
Yet you cannot see the difference between what you said and what the bible says.
@rajk999 saidThe ability to read and comprehend is not as common as one might think
Graves emptied?
You said that God said that mediums are evil in his sight.
You produce references which say that people who consult with mediums are evil or did evil in the sight of God
lol... So who is the guilty party in adultery; the man or the woman?
Yet you cannot see the difference between what you said and what the bible says.
New King James Version
[Matthew 27:50-53 NKJV] 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many."
King James Version:
[Matthew 27:50-53 KJV] 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."
New King James Version says: Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom;
King James Version says: 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom;
This is why I like the New King James Version; because the Old King James Version lies. Like, "the veil of the temple was rent in twain." I mean, how the heck can the veil of the temple get behind in it's rent twice over from top to bottom?
The New King James is truthful because it clearly says that the veil was torn from top to bottom.
Did you know that they charged the veil rent in the Temple? Me either...
I gave you the Scriptures that the "Graves were emptied."
I gave you five scriptures that clearly show that God does NOT like mediums or those who consult them. If you cannot figure it out from there, then you need to relight your pilot light.
@kingdavid403 saidSaying the graves emptied v saying that some of the saints of old were raised and appeared to people, are two completely different things.
[Matthew 27:50-53 NKJV] 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resur ...[text shortened]... torn from top to bottom.
Did you know that they charged the veil rent in the Temple? Me either...
@kingdavid403 saidRemember the story about Paul and the woman with the spirit of divination. These people have gifts from God. They are not necessarily evil and sinful. God does not hate these people, unless they themselves live in sin.
Some people just cannot accept God's Truth; even when it slaps them in the face. lol... Keep waiting, maybe hold your breath and I'll get back to ya dummy. lol...
It is greedy people who abuse these gifted people. Those are the ones that God hates.