Spirituality
03 May 17
Originally posted by apathistGiving up hope is like leaving a job. The best way to quit a job is when you know you have another waiting for you.
When do you give up hope. At some point we have to give up our losses, but when? And what do you hold onto next?
Do you see I ask not about gods, but about people.
Giving up hope is better when you know that a new hope is there waiting for you.
When I saw that there was a perfect Man who could be my Savior and was alive and available, then it was alright to give up the old hope and stand on the new.
Originally posted by sonshipGood enough, except what if another is not known to be waiting for you?
Giving up hope is like leaving a job. The best way to quit a job is when you know you have another waiting for you. ...
Btw, I specifically said we're not talking about gods here, but you had no self-control at all. Could it be you suffer from a mental disease. Every religion in every culture at all points in time had their share of fanatics. It's a human thing.
Originally posted by apathistInterestingly enough, the lunatic at times thinks that everyone else is insane,
Good enough, except what if another is not known to be waiting for you?
Btw, I specifically said we're not talking about gods here, but you had no self-control at all. Could it be you suffer from a mental disease. Every religion in every culture at all points in time had their share of fanatics. It's a human thing.
Originally posted by apathistThe polarised thinking often expressed in this forum is quite interesting. I would rather have my hope in what turned out to be an imaginary benevolent God, than real narcotics.
When do you give up hope. At some point we have to give up our losses, but when? And what do you hold onto next?
Do you see I ask not about gods, but about people.
Originally posted by apathistGood enough, except what if another is not known to be waiting for you?
Good enough, except what if another is not known to be waiting for you?
Btw, I specifically said we're not talking about gods here, but you had no self-control at all. Could it be you suffer from a mental disease. Every religion in every culture at all points in time had their share of fanatics. It's a human thing.
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Then obviously, you're in bad shape.
Btw, I specifically said we're not talking about gods here,
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I know. But I did say "perfect Man". So to meet you somewhat halfway by mentioning the perfect humanity side of Jesus.
but you had no self-control at all. Could it be you suffer from a mental disease.
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Sounds like you were the one closer to mental problems.
I spoke of a perfect Man. Well, you do have a person whose personality was so strong that in the Western world history is divided between Before Jesus arrived and During the time of His influence ; B.C. and A.D..
What do you think might be the effect on history of the life of a perfect human being ?
Every religion in every culture at all points in time had their share of fanatics. It's a human thing.
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Some comfort can be derived in blanket generalizations. Let's say that all chess players are as eccentric and paranoid as Bobby Fischer. Better stay away from chess.
Ah, that feels good ... good rationale to entirely dismiss chess as not being anything worthwhile.
Originally posted by sonshipDo you derive comfort sir from the blanket generalisation that atheists reject God so they can lead sinful lives, rather than being actually unconvinced of His existence?
Every religion in every culture at all points in time had their share of fanatics. It's a human thing.
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Some comfort can be derived in blanket generalizations. Let's say that all chess players are as eccentric and paranoid as Bobby Fischer. Better stay away fr ...[text shortened]...
Ah, that feels good ... good rationale to entirely dismiss chess as not being anything worthwhile.
04 May 17
Originally posted by divegeesterThe poppy has a long and interesting history with people!Powerful, useful, dangerous. There are other drugs as well that are known to spark and fan the flames of spirituality.
... I would rather have my hope in what turned out to be an imaginary benevolent God, than real narcotics.
04 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIn my observation, most atheists reject the idea of God in part because they reject what God is about--as described in Scripture. Taken further, they reject what God commands, including what God forbids. For example, many atheists reject God because God condemns the homosexual lifestyle. "No loving God would forbid someone loving another." Right? This is where we get the idea--again, at least in part--that many atheists reject God because they feel like people should be able to do things that God calls sinful.
Do you derive comfort sir from the blanket generalisation that atheists reject God so they can lead sinful lives, rather than being actually unconvinced of His existence?
04 May 17
Originally posted by Tom WolseyAtheists merely believe in one less god than you do. Your rationalization doesn't work.
In my observation, most atheists reject the idea of God in part because they reject what God is about--as described in Scripture. Taken further, they reject what God commands, including what God forbids. For example, many atheists reject God because God condemns the homosexual lifestyle. "No loving God would forbid someone loving another." Right? This i ...[text shortened]... atheists reject God because they feel like people should be able to do things that God calls sinful.
Originally posted by apathistI wasn't rationalizing. I was demonstrating where the idea comes from that atheist reject God in favor of sin. The agnostic view is reasonable. If you haven't seen sufficient, compelling evidence for God, then it only makes sense you would reserve judgment. The atheist view is fallacious.
Atheists merely believe in one less god than you do. Your rationalization doesn't work.
Originally posted by Tom WolseyNo Sir. Atheists reject God because they don't believe He exists. That's it. Finito. Why would I care what a God i don't believe in condemns or doesn't condemn?
In my observation, most atheists reject the idea of God in part because they reject what God is about--as described in Scripture. Taken further, they reject what God commands, including what God forbids. For example, many atheists reject God because God condemns the homosexual lifestyle. "No loving God would forbid someone loving another." Right? Thi ...[text shortened]... ists reject God because they feel like people should be able to do things that God calls sinful.
Everything else you wrote is just for your own benefit and based on your disbelief that someone could genuinely be unconvinced by the existence of your chosen deity.
In short, I don't know what you've been observing, but it certainly wasn't atheists. (Maybe raccoons?)