God and Trump

Originally posted by 667joe
Both god and Trump are clearly narcissists, will never apologize, and must constantly be praised! Neither will ever admit a mistake.

The true God, Jehovah, has no need to apologize as He has never made a mistake.
Out of love He is still trying to correct Adam's mistake.
(Deuteronomy 32:4) The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness who is never unjust; Righteous and upright is he.
(Romans 2:4) Or do you despise the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, because you do not know that God in his kindness is trying to lead you to repentance?

Originally posted by roigam
The true God, Jehovah, has no need to apologize as He has never made a mistake.
Out of love He is still trying to correct Adam's mistake.

God did that on the cross. It's a done deal. Now it's up to you to figure out who "the true God" is and believe in Him. Hint: His name is Jesus.

Originally posted by josephw
God did that on the cross. It's a done deal. Now it's up to you to figure out who "the true God" is and believe in Him. Hint: His name is Jesus.

If you believe in Jesus, you should listen to him:
(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
(1 Timothy 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
(an aside for JosephW)
btw the cross is a symbol of the ancient pagan god Tammuz.
It was never an instrument of torture or death for the Romans.
That is a mistranslation of "staurous" or " xylon", neither of which is two pieces of wood crossed.
Ancient Persians did use such an arrangement for torture and probably death.
You are still not ready.
You were closer before

Originally posted by roigam
If you believe in Jesus, you should listen to him:
(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
(1 Timothy 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
(an aside for JosephW)
btw the cross is a symbol of the ancient pagan god Tammuz.
It was ...[text shortened]... n arrangement for torture and probably death.
You are still not ready.
You were closer before

You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT and it'd still be all lies.

But you opened your mind to their propaganda, and like a child you believed what they told you. Now you're brainwashed. Probably beyond repair.

Their cleverest trick was to rewrite the scriptures according to their own preconceived ideas about what they wanted it to mean. It's all based on an old lie dating back to the first century.

Originally posted by josephw
You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT and it'd still be all lies.

But you opened your mind to their propaganda, and like a child you believed what they told you. Now you're brainwashed. Probably beyond repair.

Their cleverest trick was to rewrite the scriptures according to their own preconceived ideas about what they wanted it to mean. It's all based on an old lie dating back to the first century.

No one is beyond repair.
You should know this as a Christian

Originally posted by roigam
The true God, Jehovah, has no need to apologize as He has never made a mistake.
Out of love He is still trying to correct Adam's mistake.
(Deuteronomy 32:4) The Rock, perfect is his activity, For all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness who is never unjust; Righteous and upright is he.
(Romans 2:4) Or do you despise the riches of his kindness and fo ...[text shortened]... patience, because you do not know that God in his kindness is trying to lead you to repentance?

Have you read the book of Job?

Originally posted by 667joe
Have you read the book of Job?

I'm sorry. I don't get your point. Could you please explain further what you mean?

Originally posted by josephw
You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT and it'd still be all lies.

But you opened your mind to their propaganda, and like a child you believed what they told you. Now you're brainwashed. Probably beyond repair.

Their cleverest trick was to rewrite the scriptures according to their own preconceived ideas about what they wanted it to mean. It's all based on an old lie dating back to the first century.

You are describing your own sitution perfectly.
Many people transfer their own traits, qualities, and mistakes onto others.
I believe it started with Adam.
There's a term in psychology that describes the process.
It's been a while but, It may be "transference".

Originally posted by josephw to roigam
You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT and it'd still be all lies.

roigam quoted 1 Timothy 2:5 thus "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus".

Here is 1 Timothy 2:5 from the King James Version (your favourite translation):

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

And roigam quoted John 14:6 thus: "Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Here is John 14:6 from the King James Version:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

In what way are you claiming roigam was "quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT"?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
No one is beyond repair.
You should know this as a Christian

I'm not so sure that's true. For God nothing is impossible, but it may just be that for man there's a point of no return.

And while it may be true that no one is beyond the reach of God's grace, from the perspective of God's point of view, there may be a point at which one's mind can become so corrupt that they just won't ever repent.

One at least has to have the ability to change their mind(repent) if there's to be any hope of salvation. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

Originally posted by josephw to roigam
Their cleverest trick was to rewrite the scriptures according to their own preconceived ideas about what they wanted it to mean. It's all based on an old lie dating back to the first century.

In the post you were responding to, roigam quoted John 14:6 and 1 Timothy 2:5. Are you claiming that the scriptures he quoted have been rewritten according to some preconceived ideas about what someone wanted them to mean?

Originally posted by FMF
In what way are you claiming roigam was "quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT"?

Because the NWT is the translation riogam uses, and because his theology, which is defunct, is predicated on the whole context of a corrupt translation. Whether you believe it or not.

Are you going to pretend not to be aware of the whole context of this thread as well as the other riogam started where he makes claims about the doctrine of salvation which are unsupportable by scripture?

Or are you going to employ your regular technique of hair splitting, obfuscating, and narrowly focused questions about anything as long as it has nothing to do with the overall topic?

Or both?

Originally posted by FMF
In the post you were responding to, roigam quoted John 14:6 and 1 Timothy 2:5. Are you claiming that the scriptures he quoted have been rewritten according to some preconceived ideas about what someone wanted them to mean?

Are you going to keep firing off those same two neurons all night? 😵

Originally posted by josephw
Are you going to pretend not to be aware of the whole context of this thread as well as the other riogam started where he makes claims about the doctrine of salvation which are unsupportable by scripture?

No. I am not. So although you used your reply - to his quoting John 14:6 and 1 Timothy 2:5 - to say "You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT", in fact, you do not have any objection to how he has quoted John 14:6 and 1 Timothy 2:5, and how they support his view, is that right?

Originally posted by josephw
...are you going to employ your regular technique of hair splitting, obfuscating, and narrowly focused questions about anything as long as it has nothing to do with the overall topic?

Here is what you said to roigam:

josephw: You can spend all day quoting from that corrupt Watchtower produced NWT and it'd still be all lies.

This is a point blank, not-narrowly-focussed, to-do-explicitly-with-what-you-said question, that is anything BUT "splitting hairs":

Specifically, which verses from the NWT version has roigam quoted that you claim are "corrupt" and "rewritten" and "lies"? I'd like to look at the verses from the NWT that he posted and that you are referring to (above), and compare them to the KJV version.