God is a hole

Originally posted by Doward
A: nothing

“Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” -- Zen proverb

Originally posted by Doward
A: nothing

(That and) enlighten others 😉

Originally posted by JS357
“Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” -- Zen proverb

And during ?


































"the wood is no longer wood and the water is no longer water" 😉

Originally posted by JS357
“Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” -- Zen proverb

I like that.

Maybe after enlightenment; chop more wood, carry more water.

Originally posted by josephw
I like that.

Maybe after enlightenment; chop more wood, carry more water.

No, the point is it's exactly the same (but seen from a different point of view).
It's a begginers lesson, where the begginers mind is "turned on" and they start their training "things" happen (changes in perception), where 'chopping wood is no longer chopping wood', but after enlightenment ,chopping wood is chopping wood once again, sanity has prevailed 🙂

Originally posted by karoly aczel
No, the point is it's exactly the same (but seen from a different point of view).
It's a begginers lesson, where the begginers mind is "turned on" and they start their training "things" happen (changes in perception), where 'chopping wood is no longer chopping wood', but after enlightenment ,chopping wood is chopping wood once again, sanity has prevailed 🙂

I think you are trying to make too big a deal out of it.

Originally posted by josephw
[b]"Q. what does an enlightened person do?"

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself."

Stake your life on it.[/b]

Shouldn't that be : stake your death on it?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
No, the point is it's exactly the same (but seen from a different point of view).
It's a begginers lesson, where the begginers mind is "turned on" and they start their training "things" happen (changes in perception), where 'chopping wood is no longer chopping wood', but after enlightenment ,chopping wood is chopping wood once again, sanity has prevailed 🙂

Basically, you have to go through a bout of schizophrenia and beat it to become enlightened?












































Sounds about right. 😛

Originally posted by RJHinds
I think you are trying to make too big a deal out of it.

No, I am trying to clarify the meaning of this text.

Originally posted by tomtom232
Basically, you have to go through a bout of schizophrenia and beat it to become enlightened?












































Sounds about right. 😛

Yes, from a certain point of view.
Though some people think I am out of line for thinking like this.

Scizophrenia is near impossible to describe and is usually characterized by a set of symptoms.

The best definition I have come across is "divided self syndrome", which loosely fits in with what I'm on about.

(The self(ego) is in opposition to the Self, ( with a big "s" ), hence a divided "self" )

I'm in two minds whether or not to speak at the upcoming schizophrenia conference.....

Originally posted by andrew93
I'm in two minds whether or not to speak at the upcoming schizophrenia conference.....

Lol ...

Originally posted by andrew93
Shouldn't that be : stake your death on it?

Christians do not look to Christ for eternal death, but we look to Him for
eternal life.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Christians do not look to Christ for eternal death, but we look to Him for
eternal life.

....after death....?