1. Subscribersonhouse
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    13 Jan '16 16:45
    Originally posted by Welsh invader
    God knew that his apple on his tree would be stolen he knew this because he is God.
    He knew this would happen
    So why has he made a big deal about his apple
    he knew it would be stolen because he is God
    Just a thought!
    So you are re-writing what I already sent to the forums in answer to one of your questions. I expanded on that already. Like this god would never have needed to do such a test because it would have already known the outcome in advance and therefore would never have needed to do the test. And so forth for all the other so-called god tests in the bible.
    Abe willing to off his son on the word of god, etc.
  2. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    13 Jan '16 17:18
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you are re-writing what I already sent to the forums in answer to one of your questions. I expanded on that already. Like this god would never have needed to do such a test because it would have already known the outcome in advance and therefore would never have needed to do the test. And so forth for all the other so-called god tests in the bible.
    Abe willing to off his son on the word of god, etc.
    Hey, you're on nickname terms with Abraham.
  3. Standard memberKellyJay
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    13 Jan '16 19:53
    Originally posted by Welsh invader
    God knew that his apple on his tree would be stolen he knew this because he is God.
    He knew this would happen
    So why has he made a big deal about his apple
    he knew it would be stolen because he is God
    Just a thought!
    Do you think it impossible for God to give someone else a choice to do as they will and not
    as He wants them too?
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    13 Jan '16 19:58
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Do you think it impossible for God to give someone else a choice to do as they will and not
    as He wants them too?
    Why do you think a deity, who knows the past, present and future, why would it set up a situation like Abraham offing his son to prove his loyalty? So the deity watches old Abe with knife in hand ready to thrust it into his son's heart and stops him at the last minute.

    Yep, Abe, looks like you are loyal to me.

    And this deity hadn't known that before that test?

    Come on, can't you tell a human generated story when you see it?

    Back then, nobody would have asked the question I just did, they would just take the story as given, their god talked to Abe, stopped him from offing his son.

    Why can't people see the obvious here?
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    13 Jan '16 20:283 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Back then, nobody would have asked the question I just did, they would just take the story as given, their god talked to Abe, stopped him from offing his son.

    Why can't people see the obvious here?

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You sonhouse seem very much swollen with some kind of conceit.

    Do you actually think that you are the first person to consider this paradox in the few thousands of years that account has been read and contemplated ?

    This is like me saying "Hey all you chess players. I think getting the king in a position so it can't get out of check is a good idea ! "

    I would humor you with my thoughts on the matter. But you'd probably only respond with something like - "Well, I have this other problem with such a deity over here."
  6. Standard memberKellyJay
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    13 Jan '16 20:361 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Why do you think a deity, who knows the past, present and future, why would it set up a situation like Abraham offing his son to prove his loyalty? So the deity watches old Abe with knife in hand ready to thrust it into his son's heart and stops him at the last minute.

    Yep, Abe, looks like you are loyal to me.

    And this deity hadn't known that before ...[text shortened]... ir god talked to Abe, stopped him from offing his son.

    Why can't people see the obvious here?
    I'd guess a reality check which is all this place is. What is real and pretense with respect to
    God's and Abraham's relationship? Our world right now is all about finding what is real or
    not even our science is just to do that. God would never need do such a thing if Abraham
    had no choice in the matter.
  7. Standard memberRJHinds
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    13 Jan '16 21:14
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Why do you think a deity, who knows the past, present and future, why would it set up a situation like Abraham offing his son to prove his loyalty? So the deity watches old Abe with knife in hand ready to thrust it into his son's heart and stops him at the last minute.

    Yep, Abe, looks like you are loyal to me.

    And this deity hadn't known that before ...[text shortened]... ir god talked to Abe, stopped him from offing his son.

    Why can't people see the obvious here?
    Even though God can tell the end from the beginning, how can God give man free will and not allow him to exercise his choices?
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    13 Jan '16 21:32
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you are re-writing what I already sent to the forums in answer to one of your questions. I expanded on that already. Like this god would never have needed to do such a test because it would have already known the outcome in advance and therefore would never have needed to do the test. And so forth for all the other so-called god tests in the bible.
    Abe willing to off his son on the word of god, etc.
    Shut up u Dick Head!
    Take A tabblet

    Anyway another thing I was thinking about which I am unsure about is this:
    God made us in his image, is that corect?
    What does that mean!

    Ok I am a bit puzzled!
    Our thoughts can be nasty our thoughts can be nice
    We love we hate
    We also do poos like ants, ducks and fish do
    Does God do poos

    We are f--ing mental war lovers
    and war haters

    We smell and so do pigs and goats

    I am just unsure about some things.
    Hope you peeps dont mind me asking!
  9. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    13 Jan '16 21:45
    Originally posted by Welsh invader
    Shut up u Dick Head!
    Take A tabblet

    Anyway another thing I was thinking about which I am unsure about is this:
    God made us in his image, is that corect?
    What does that mean!

    Ok I am a bit puzzled!
    Our thoughts can be nasty our thoughts can be nice
    We love we hate
    We also do poos like ants, ducks and fish do
    Does God do poos

    We are f--in ...[text shortened]... so do pigs and goats

    I am just unsure about some things.
    Hope you peeps dont mind me asking!
    Perhaps if you asked more nicely.
  10. Wales
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    13 Jan '16 21:54
    What about consent
    As in making someone have a baby
    Did the mother of Jesus have a choice
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    13 Jan '16 22:02
    Originally posted by sonship
    Seven edits. Lol.
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    13 Jan '16 22:06
    Originally posted by Welsh invader
    Shut up u Dick Head!
    Take A tabblet

    Anyway another thing I was thinking about which I am unsure about is this:
    God made us in his image, is that corect?
    What does that mean!

    Ok I am a bit puzzled!
    Our thoughts can be nasty our thoughts can be nice
    We love we hate
    We also do poos like ants, ducks and fish do
    Does God do poos

    We are f--in ...[text shortened]... so do pigs and goats

    I am just unsure about some things.
    Hope you peeps dont mind me asking!
    Despite your new name it didn't take long for you to return to type did it. 😉
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    13 Jan '16 22:14
    Originally posted by Welsh invader
    What about consent
    As in making someone have a baby
    Did the mother of Jesus have a choice
    When a man asks a woman to marry him, does she have a choice? 😏
  14. Wales
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    13 Jan '16 22:24
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    When a man asks a woman to marry him, does she have a choice? 😏
    Making a woman pregnent without her consent is not allowed and so I am just asking a question!
    Sorry if this is deap, but I am just trying to find things out!
  15. Wales
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    13 Jan '16 22:31
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Despite your new name it didn't take long for you to return to type did it. 😉
    What new name. Explain what you are going on and on about
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