Originally posted by KellyJayIf the charges don't apply to your understanding of your god, you would have said so. The charges include a couple of conditionals which make it easy to find some loopholes. But your response looks like you put your fingers in your ears and chant lalala.
Like said I you don't who are talking about.
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Originally posted by chaney3Wrong how? Doing what He wills with His own? The universe He created was very good
Why can't people of faith just admit is was wrong?
Why not KJ? God was clearly wrong.
Why must you defend Him?
and we brought evil into it and you don't like the results and wish to blame God? He saves
us by using us and you'd rather He just condemn the whole race and not save us?
Originally posted by KellyJayI gather that you have no intention of denying the charges against your client. You do not claim that God does not damn souls to eternal torment for failing to believe He exists or for failing to believe that Jesus died to atone for their sins. Correct?
Wrong how? Doing what He wills with His own? The universe He created was very good
and we brought evil into it and you don't like the results and wish to blame God? He saves
us by using us and you'd rather He just condemn the whole race and not save us?
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Originally posted by apathistWell, hey, it's because this is not a credible "trial".
I gather that you have no intention of denying the charges against your client. You do not claim that God does not damn souls to eternal torment for failing to believe He exists or for failing to believe that Jesus died to atone for their sins. Correct?
It's just a few ignorant people saying ignorant things.
We've had this fight before. Numerous times. People are still ignorant.
Originally posted by SuzianneWith argumentation like this, you wouldn't be kept on retainer long by the defendant in this case.
Well, hey, it's because this is not a credible "trial".
It's just a few ignorant people saying ignorant things.
We've had this fight before. Numerous times. People are still ignorant.
Originally posted by apathistGod will send sinners into Hell, the salvation offered by God is either accepted or not, if
I gather that you have no intention of denying the charges against your client. You do not claim that God does not damn souls to eternal torment for failing to believe He exists or for failing to believe that Jesus died to atone for their sins. Correct?
not then you'll stand before God in your sins and will answer for every idle word, every
deed done and not done when you lived here. If Hell is your fate due to those, than Hell
is your fate.
-Removed-The irony of my discussions with Shalom are, that he only focuses on the actual 'exodus', and gives little thought to the plague of passover. Despite the holiday's implications.
They seem to ignore the 'nuisance' of the dead children to interfere with their exodus celebration, despite the name of such holiday.."Passover".
This issue should not be brushed under the rug. God unleashed 10 plagues upon an innocent population, who knew nothing of the drama unfolding between Moses and Pharoah.
Why is this okay? Why do the Jews of today celebrate this calamity as alright?
God himself killed countless children that night.
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Originally posted by chaney3With respect sir, I don't think you can move from you discussion with Steven (I mean Shalom) where "he only focuses" to then saying "they seem to ignore."
The irony of my discussions with Shalom are, that he only focuses on the actual 'exodus', and gives little thought to the plague of passover. Despite the holiday's implications.
They seem to ignore the 'nuisance' of the dead children to interfere with their exodus celebration, despite the name of such holiday.."Passover".
Stuart (I mean Shalom) doesn't speak for Judaism.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeGhost, kidding aside. They ignore much to celebrate Passover. I have listed reasons why.
With respect sir, I don't think you can can move from you discussion with Steven (I mean Shalom) where "he only focuses" to then saying "they seem to ignore."
Stuart (I mean Shalom) doesn't speak for Judaism.