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Originally posted by Eladar
If there is really no difference between the two of you, then both of you will end up in the same place.
Oh god, really? No one cares where we end up. I'm concerned of the here and now and what difference i CAN make, not some possible hellish existence in the "future"

This Catholic angst is quickly losing it's power over people
s minds

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
God will eventually end your life, even though you may really really want to continue living. Up until the day you die you have the gift of free will. But certainly God may orchestrate events in your life that may present you with choices but the choice is still ultimately yours to make.
The choice is ours. you said it.
However everything else you say seems to want to make people's decisions for them.
You are insecure if others don't agree with you


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Looking back over 53 years on the surface, four decades as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I can't think of a single thing He stopped me from doing--- including some really he-believes-in-God-and-lives-like-that moments.
Almost as though He knew I couldn't shock Him but He had enough to bankroll my efforts anyway so He let the film roll.
Looking bac ...[text shortened]... nge myself into a "Wish He would have stopped that one!" position.
But, I guess He knew better!
53 years of cynicism?

Of demonstrating Christian values?

He didn't stop you cause "He" don't exist. I thought a smart person like you would know that

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
The universe has always existed, in one form or another.

Time is a human construct.
A friend a long time ago said " time is an act of measurement" . I've not heard any better explanation than that


Originally posted by karoly aczel
Oh god, really? No one cares where we end up. I'm concerned of the here and now and what difference i CAN make, not some possible hellish existence in the "future"

This Catholic angst is quickly losing it's power over people
s minds
The difference you can make is nothing. We all die and are forgotten.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Ah.
Sometimes my subtle detector goes on the fritz.
I'm having the same problem with my phone charger.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
The universe has always existed, in one form or another.

Time is a human construct.
Say what?

Got some science to back up these claims?

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Say what?

Got some science to back up these claims?
Let's start with the 7 million Jainists who believe the universe has always existed.

And here's the science to back it up. 🙂

https://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Let's start with the 7 million Jainists who believe the universe has always existed.

And here's the science to back it up. 🙂

https://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html
Let's never, ever, ever start with an argumentum ad populum.

NEVER!

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Let's never, ever, ever start with an argumentum ad populum.

[b]NEVER!
[/b]
Come on, just this once.

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Say what?

Got some science to back up these claims?
Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Let's never, ever, ever start with an argumentum ad populum.

[b]NEVER!
[/b]
But Jainists are such nice people. They can't all be wrong can they?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.
"Time is a dimension."

Is it? Seriously, I'm not so sure. Dimension is a term usually used to measure an object. How on earth does one measure time across an infinite universe?

Time, as I understand it, is the measure of the rotation of objects in our immediate solar system. But that's just me talking off the top of my unscientific head! 😉

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.
While you are technically correct by assuming "always" only applies so long as there is time (if I understand correctly), I don't think that is what GOAD means.

While scientific ideas concerning the beginning of the universe and possibly time are always interesting - even though I lack the knowledge to really comprehend them - making cocksure claims about these things is just silly. We simply lack the scientific knowledge.

Certainly for the layman, the correct response to "How did time and space begin" should be: "Dunno".

Edit: did/does/will the universe exist without time?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Come on, just this once.
Find me at least 2500 people who would defend the argumentum ad populum and I'll reconsider.