Originally posted by Eladar If there is really no difference between the two of you, then both of you will end up in the same place.
Oh god, really? No one cares where we end up. I'm concerned of the here and now and what difference i CAN make, not some possible hellish existence in the "future"
This Catholic angst is quickly losing it's power over people
s minds
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk God will eventually end your life, even though you may really really want to continue living. Up until the day you die you have the gift of free will. But certainly God may orchestrate events in your life that may present you with choices but the choice is still ultimately yours to make.
The choice is ours. you said it.
However everything else you say seems to want to make people's decisions for them.
You are insecure if others don't agree with you
Originally posted by FreakyKBH Looking back over 53 years on the surface, four decades as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I can't think of a single thing He stopped me from doing--- including some really he-believes-in-God-and-lives-like-that moments.
Almost as though He knew I couldn't shock Him but He had enough to bankroll my efforts anyway so He let the film roll.
Looking bac ...[text shortened]... nge myself into a "Wish He would have stopped that one!" position.
But, I guess He knew better!
53 years of cynicism?
Of demonstrating Christian values?
He didn't stop you cause "He" don't exist. I thought a smart person like you would know that
Originally posted by karoly aczel Oh god, really? No one cares where we end up. I'm concerned of the here and now and what difference i CAN make, not some possible hellish existence in the "future"
This Catholic angst is quickly losing it's power over people
s minds
The difference you can make is nothing. We all die and are forgotten.
Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.
Originally posted by twhitehead Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.
"Time is a dimension."
Is it? Seriously, I'm not so sure. Dimension is a term usually used to measure an object. How on earth does one measure time across an infinite universe?
Time, as I understand it, is the measure of the rotation of objects in our immediate solar system. But that's just me talking off the top of my unscientific head! 😉
Originally posted by twhitehead Time is a dimension. The definition of time means it covers the whole universe, no more, no less. Therefore the universe exists throughout time. The universe has always existed.
To what extent time is a 'human construct' depends on exactly what you mean by time.
While you are technically correct by assuming "always" only applies so long as there is time (if I understand correctly), I don't think that is what GOAD means.
While scientific ideas concerning the beginning of the universe and possibly time are always interesting - even though I lack the knowledge to really comprehend them - making cocksure claims about these things is just silly. We simply lack the scientific knowledge.
Certainly for the layman, the correct response to "How did time and space begin" should be: "Dunno".
Edit: did/does/will the universe exist without time?
16 Feb '17 00:16
God stops me .....
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