09 Dec '05 18:53>1 edit
And isnt a Christian
Originally posted by HalitoseI think the real question would be asked of those who believe Jesus is god. Simply for the fact that my statement would not exist if the conditions were different.
[b]Not to mention the fact that, Jesus isn't god.
How did you reach this conclusion?[/b]
Originally posted by TetsujinYou asserted it as a fact to the contrary, hence my request for substantiation.
I think the real question would be asked of those who believe Jesus [b]is god. Simply for the fact that my statement would not exist if the conditions were different.
Since there must be a belief that Jesus is god, there must be a reason for that belief. Therefore the onus is on the believer to provide the reasons for belief.
That being said, if such a belief is proven, it becomes my responsibility to provide a reason for non-belief.[/b]
Originally posted by HalitoseIt is only contradictory to the presupposed "fact", one that awaits validation.
You asserted it as a [b]fact to the contrary, hence my request for substantiation.[/b]
Originally posted by TetsujinWell, this isn't really the thread topic, but since there seems to be discussion on it, ....
Not to mention the fact that, Jesus isn't god. But, that's another discussion.
Originally posted by joelekWell... which bible do you believe in?
Well, this isn't really the thread topic, but since there seems to be discussion on it, ....
I have to start with the Bible. If you don't believe the Bible, then I can't prove to your satisfaction that Jesus is God. But if you do claim to believe the Bible, you only have to look to John 1 (though there are numerous other places to look as well, if yo ...[text shortened]... obvious from the context), and verse 1 clearly states the He was God.
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Originally posted by TetsujinWell, the arguments I've made could come from any version of the Bible I've ever read. I've read from several, though admittedly not all. If you'd care to quote John 1 from some version that doesn't support my arguments, go ahead.
Well... which bible do you believe in?
Originally posted by joelekFrom the Aramic Bible,
Well, the arguments I've made could come from any version of the Bible I've ever read. I've read from several, though admittedly not all. If you'd care to quote John 1 from some version that doesn't support my arguments, go ahead.
Otherwise, you're just saying that maybe, somewhere, exists some supposed Bible version that might refute my argument. If that's your argument, there's no point bringing "the Bible" into any of your arguments.