Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith rules that God ‘cannot bless sin’ [UK newspaper]
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
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15 Mar 21
@fmf saidChurches can bless who they please, but that blessing has nothing to do with God. God is under no duress to bless the same way the church chooses to bless.
Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith rules that God ‘cannot bless sin’ [UK newspaper]
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
Discuss
15 Mar 21
@fmf saidCompletely agree.
Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith rules that God ‘cannot bless sin’ [UK newspaper]
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
Discuss
15 Mar 21
@fmf saidDepends. If that Church is conducting specifically religious activity, then I agree.
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
Discuss
But if they start a chain of restaurants like Chick-Fil-A where their business isn't religious in nature, then I disagree. They should have no reason to fire employees whose values contradict theirs, in that situation.
16 Mar 21
@fmf saidYeah, I agree.
Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith rules that God ‘cannot bless sin’ [UK newspaper]
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
Discuss
What is fun about this for a lot of people is seeing whether or not the Catholics will go full apostate in the near future, and basically wondering what this will possibly due to the Catholics over the coming years.
16 Mar 21
@philokalia said"Apostate" in whose eyes?
What is fun about this for a lot of people is seeing whether or not the Catholics will go full apostate in the near future, and basically wondering what this will possibly due to the Catholics over the coming years.
16 Mar 21
@philokalia saidBut he's dead. He stopped calling people things about 2,000 years ago. Do you think your personal opinion, here and now, affects the reality inhabited and experienced by the people to whom you refer as "apostate"?
St. Paul's
16 Mar 21
@fmf saidBut what if faith based values conflict with the law? For instance, performing marriages of minors to adult members of a congregation? I realise that this is actually the inverse of the question posed in the OP.
Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith rules that God ‘cannot bless sin’ [UK newspaper]
Courts shouldn't be used to try to force churches to condone or cooperate with activities that conflict with their faith-based values.
Discuss
Also, in the case brought up by vivify, regarding Chick—Fil-A, although CFA is not a religious organisation, it is guided by beliefs that have been challenged in the courts. Hiring and labour practices are subject to laws of the land. CFA could not legally fire someone because if their beliefs.
Interestingly, I work for an organisation that is funded by the Catholic Church. They are not permitted to base my employment with them on my personal beliefs. Although, I am allowed to continue my employment with them regardless of my opinions on matters such as abortion, for instance, I am not permitted to represent my opinions about that subject as an agent of the agency. I am also not permitted to endorse abortion as an option for a pregnant client. I am permitted to guide my clients to alternative professionals to consult on the matter.
Religious organisations in the US are provided a certain tax exempt status which one can argue ought to allow courts some breadth of influence. It’s an argument that that’s been engaged for years.
16 Mar 21
@fmf said(1) St. Paul is vital to our understanding and even just our accurate knowledge of what Christianity is.
But he's dead. He stopped calling people things about 2,000 years ago. Do you think your personal opinion, here and now, affects the reality inhabited and experienced by the people to whom you refer as "apostate"?
(2) Sure, why not?
16 Mar 21
@fmf saidIt is for me too, but even if there is no apparent abuse or even sexual activity, there are laws regarding marriageable age in the US—each state determines this. My question is whether or not it is right, legal, or moral to impose a lifelong decision and commitment on a child who has no rights or say in the matter.
The issue for me, here, would be whether there is child abuse or statutory rape.