@medullah saidGod instructs the Israelites to 'completely destroy them' and 'do not leave alive anything that breathes.' (Which includes children).
Completely.
I am totally against the practice of rape and murder of children as was practiced by the Canaanites. This was in the form of Bale worship which included the "rites of Molech", incorporating the sacrifice of babies by rolling them down a chute into a fiery deposit where they burned to death.
They also had another classic known as "the cult of the open hole", which would make the sheep in Wales feel relatively safe.
So the practice of murdering children, which you are 'totally against', is to be punished by God,...by the killing of the very same children.
And you are 'completely' okay with this?!
(And heads up. The victors always villainize and demonize the vanquished to justify acts of genocide).
@eladar saidThe Bible makes clear knowledge of good and evil is known to everybody. (Including gentiles). It is up to each of us, and our conscience, as to what we do with that knowledge. You abandon yours at the drop of a hat.
The question was about knowing truth. The claim that everyone knows truth is false. Hopefully you can admit that now.
@eladar saidNot Jesus, after whom the religion you profess to follow is named.
Then who told the Israelites to commit genocide upon entering the promised land?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidPlease quote the scripture that says everyone has God's truth in their hearts. Remember, not s mention of as few, but universally.
The Bible makes clear knowledge of good and evil is known to everybody. (Including gentiles). It is up to each of us, and our conscience, as to what we do with that knowledge. You abandon yours at the drop of a hat.
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@avalanchethecat saidSo do you know the answer to the question as to who instructed the Israrlites to commit genocide? If yes, then give the name.
Not Jesus, after whom the religion you profess to follow is named.
Otherwise admit ignorance and I will educate you.
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@eladar saidI know of no scripture with the wording as you have specified, but this makes the point about right/wrong
Please quote the scripture that says everyone has God's truth in their hearts. Remember, not s mention of as few, but universally.
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14 For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.
People of the the nations are all peoples.
@medullah saidSo only those who do the law, not all of them.
I know of no scripture with the wording as you have specified, but this makes the point about right/wrong
14 For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.
People of the the nations are all peoples.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt's a fair question.
God instructs the Israelites to 'completely destroy them' and 'do not leave alive anything that breathes.' (Which includes children).
So the practice of murdering children, which you are 'totally against', is to be punished by God,...by the killing of the very same children.
And you are 'completely' okay with this?!
(And heads up. The victors always villainize and demonize the vanquished to justify acts of genocide).
The Canaanites used children for sexual gratification and as sacrifices.
Am I personally ok with killing kids? - no sir, and I have already said that. But let's page on a bit.
The Israelites didn't complete the task and in time became Bale worshippers themselves, in fact you might even consider them to be the foremost practitioners of this at one point.
A couple of questions for you Duke (and anyone else, all answers in good faith appreciated), and I don't really know the answer, it's viewpoint, but it would be interesting to see what your thoughts are.
We have the problem of a cult that sacrifices children, and screws just about anything it can with a hole (cult of the open hole) male female and non human. How do you deal with that? How do you stop that systematic abuse of children in this fashion without destroying it?
@medullah saidIn practice it would all people to which it applies. If they do not live by the law, then Paul does not claim they have the law written in their hearts.
@Eladar
I understand your direction, but in practice it would be all people. Unless you are a complete psychopath with totally zero thought for a fellow human you would maintain some aspect of the law.
If not, then perhaps you can explain how a person who does not live by the law is supposed to have the law.
@eladar saidI believe the genocide by the Isrselites as they entered the promised land is good. Does everyone agree with me?
Do we all have the same opinion about what is good as opposed to what is evil?
Case in point, I believe the genocide by the Isrselites as they entered the promised land is good. Does everyone agree with me?
This sounds like a loaded question -
@medullah saidI have already given him this reference. He doesn't seem to understand it.
I know of no scripture with the wording as you have specified, but this makes the point about right/wrong
14 For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.
People of the the nations are all peoples.
@medullah saidI don't know enough about the Canaanites to validate your claims about them or how accurate and uninflated there are. (The vanquished don't write the history books). I do however know the Israelites wanted the land the Canaanites were occupying and that genocide is more palatable when the victims are demonized.
It's a fair question.
The Canaanites used children for sexual gratification and as sacrifices.
Am I personally ok with killing kids? - no sir, and I have already said that. But let's page on a bit.
The Israelites didn't complete the task and in time became Bale worshippers themselves, in fact you might even consider them to be the foremost practitioners of this at ...[text shortened]... with that? How do you stop that systematic abuse of children in this fashion without destroying it?
But assuming the Canaanites were indeed as bad as you say, this still doesn't give the green light to genocide. There are societies today in the world that have practices we would consider depraved. Does that make it okay to wipe them out in their entirety, man, woman, child, beast?
@eladar saidOh you'll 'educate' me will you? Well you know, considering that you have already comprehensively demonstrated an almost complete lack of understanding of the teachings of the primary teacher of your own faith, I think I'll take a pass on that.
So do you know the answer to the question as to who instructed the Israrlites to commit genocide? If yes, then give the name.
Otherwise admit ignorance and I will educate you.
@avalanchethecat
See the thread I started about who Jesus said is good.
God told Israel to commit genocide and Jesus claims that only God is good. Funny how people believe that the OT does not apply to Jesus at all. They believe Jesus replaces the mean God of the OT when in fact Jesus is in total agreement with the mean God of the OT.