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Originally posted by josephwJoe, can you explain to me why it is that so many fundamentalist or born-again or god fearing Christians, in the US, have right leaning and often extreme right leaning political views.
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Originally posted by amannionA good part of it (i.e., right-leaning politics) is cultural, finding no basis in Christian belief. I've had long arguments with my wife's conservative Christian family about health care, for instance. To me it's an obvious moral imperative for a society to ensure the well-being of its people, whether they are blessed with money or not. Peoples' lives have inherent worth despite their financial standing. Yet I've been astonished by my fellow Christians saying essentially, "Tough cookies, life ain't fair; we aren't responsible for poor people." Which isn't too far from, "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out." To tell you the truth, I really don't understand it and can't explain it.
Joe, can you explain to me why it is that so many fundamentalist or born-again or god fearing Christians, in the US, have right leaning and often extreme right leaning political views.
It seems that many of these people - and I'm including you here too obviously - go from their religious belief to government is bad, free markets are good, socialism is evil ef?
(Truth be told, I don't get these views full stop.But maybe that's for another thread.)
Originally posted by epiphinehasYeah, the health care debate you guys have been going through particularly baffles me. Coming from a country where everyone has access to public medical and dental care if needed, and where medical insurance companies still flourish, I don't get it. (Mind you, our system is not perfect of course.)
A good part of it (i.e., right-leaning politics) is cultural, finding no basis in Christian belief. I've had long arguments with my wife's conservative Christian family about health care, for instance. To me it's an obvious moral imperative for a society to ensure the well-being of its people, whether they are blessed with money or not. Peoples' lives ...[text shortened]... affiliated. In my mind all Christians should be politically unaffiliated.
Originally posted by epiphinehas"To me it's an obvious moral imperative for a society to ensure the well-being of its people,.."
A good part of it (i.e., right-leaning politics) is cultural, finding no basis in Christian belief. I've had long arguments with my wife's conservative Christian family about health care, for instance. To me it's an obvious moral imperative for a society to ensure the well-being of its people, whether they are blessed with money or not. Peoples' lives ...[text shortened]... affiliated. In my mind all Christians should be politically unaffiliated.
Originally posted by amannionNothing IS perfect. Improvements can be made. But the issue here in America isn't about providing health care. It's about a GOVERNMENT program designed by a bunch of elitist liberals that are power hungry and will cease at nothing to destroy American exceptionalism by taking control of the private sector.
Yeah, the health care debate you guys have been going through particularly baffles me. Coming from a country where everyone has access to public medical and dental care if needed, and where medical insurance companies still flourish, I don't get it. (Mind you, our system is not perfect of course.)
Originally posted by josephwAt what cost? The loss of freedom and liberty.
[b]"To me it's an obvious moral imperative for a society to ensure the well-being of its people,.."
At what cost? The loss of freedom and liberty. The current health care plan being crammed down our throats is not about health care in case you haven't noticed.
Government should be limited as outlined in our constitution.
But forget it. The ship is sunk anyway. I will be amazed if we survive the coming catastrophe.[/b]
Originally posted by josephwWell, obviously I'm no expert on your system, but I do know that universal health care can work and I'm glad I live in a place where I can get it.
Nothing IS perfect. Improvements can be made. But the issue here in America isn't about providing health care. It's about a GOVERNMENT program designed by a bunch of elitist liberals that are power hungry and will cease at nothing to destroy American exceptionalism by taking control of the private sector.
It's that simple.
Originally posted by amannionNorway is the best country in the world. And I've never been there.
Well, obviously I'm no expert on your system, but I do know that universal health care can work and I'm glad I live in a place where I can get it.
I'm forever fascinated by this 'American exceptionalism' you guys never fail to spout. As if the US was the only decent place on Earth to live. As if Americans have some sort of monopoly on good or decent or har ...[text shortened]... n Earth would want to be there. So what's the reason for your smug sense of superiority?