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I'd rather be Socrates dissatisfied than a pig satisfied---John Stuart Mill
Originally posted by ua41higher order of happiness. Socrates might be dissatisfied, but only because he is aware that there is injustice and inequity in society. A pig is oblivious to such things and craves only physical satisfaction. When Socrates is satisfied then the quality of that happiness is such that the memeory alone will carry him through his dissatisfaction.
"What's the difference?" -Ua
Originally posted by ua41Are you asking what is the difference between a Socrates dissatisfied and a pig satisfied or
"What's the difference?" -Ua
Originally posted by DowardOrders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at. I understand the sentiment- the pig lost in his pen, only has mud and food around him, doesn't see the even grander picture for what everything really is. Socrates tries to unveil all essence etc. and is unsatisfied with the current picture of everything.
higher order of happiness. Socrates might be dissatisfied, but only because he is aware that there is injustice and inequity in society. A pig is oblivious to such things and craves only physical satisfaction. When Socrates is satisfied then the quality of that happiness is such that the memeory alone will carry him through his dissatisfaction.
Originally posted by ua41Socrates was scared to make a big mud mohawk!!
Orders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at. I understand the sentiment- the pig lost in his pen, only has mud and food around him, doesn't see the even grander picture for what everything really is. Socrates tries to unveil all essence etc. and is unsatisfied with the current picture of everything.
As far as I'm concerned- I'm in the ...[text shortened]... ps and mud piles to roll around in. Socrates was just afraid to make the mud into sculptures.
Originally posted by ua41Orders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at
Orders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at. I understand the sentiment- the pig lost in his pen, only has mud and food around him, doesn't see the even grander picture for what everything really is. Socrates tries to unveil all essence etc. and is unsatisfied with the current picture of everything.
As far as I'm concerned- I'm in the ...[text shortened]... ps and mud piles to roll around in. Socrates was just afraid to make the mud into sculptures.
Originally posted by DowardFor the most part, I agree with this. I'm the first to talk out against people getting caught up in useless things (e.g. feeding the flesh desires), materialism etc. Living in the san francisco bay area, a lot of hearts around here are cold, and the social structure (culturally, economically/financially, and even infrastructure wise) keeps us penned up like cattle. People keep their head down, focused on their bank account, or smart phone, or going to some club to indulge on substance abuse and impersonal intimacy.
[b]Orders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at
I disagree. A slight disclaimer here: The actual qoute should be ""it is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied". I shortened it for expedience, though that was likely a mistake.
Happiness can be di ...[text shortened]... type of happiness, the animal pleasures and appetites have less of an impact and seem petty.[/b]
Originally posted by DowardQuote: "The actual qoute should be ""it is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied"."
[b]Orders of happiness is somewhat ambiguous is what I was getting at
I disagree. A slight disclaimer here: The actual qoute should be ""it is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied". I shortened it for expedience, though that was likely a mistake.
Happiness can be di ...[text shortened]... type of happiness, the animal pleasures and appetites have less of an impact and seem petty.[/b]
Originally posted by JS357A fool woulld never bother to contempate such a thing, let alone a satisfied fool
Quote: "The actual qoute should be ""it is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied"."
Yes, but if you were a fool satisfied, wouldn't you say that's what you'd rather be?😛