Hebrew God Equals Sumerian God

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
end of ice age, lots of land ice melts. floods all over the world. most of the people live on coasts. most of the people will have flood stories.

Its not just ice ages. Many people live near large rivers (and their deltas). Large rivers tend to flood. It happens quite regularly even to this day all around the world. There were floods in China just this last month.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
no worries on that front, i made no modifications that misrepresented the original post.

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So if you do NOT have total understanding, then perhaps there is a soul of man that lives on after the body dies, right? Maybe there is a spiritual Heaven and Hell, right? And perhaps there is a God that created life and we did not evolve from some othe ified. the bible has already been falsified. relegate that nonsense to our library of myths.

How is it possible for people to falsify the Holy Bible, unless they understand what the Holy Bible is saying? Biblical scholars who have actually studied it find that it is extremely accurate when all evidence, including recently discovered archaeological evidence, is considered. 😏

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God!

Originally posted by twhitehead
Its not just ice ages. Many people live near large rivers (and their deltas). Large rivers tend to flood. It happens quite regularly even to this day all around the world. There were floods in China just this last month.

Again numbnuts, we are talking about a worldwide flood in which only a few people are saved, not routine flooding of lands which happen all the time. Please get your head out!

Originally posted by RJHinds
How is it possible for people to falsify the Holy Bible, unless they understand what the Holy Bible is saying? Biblical scholars who have actually studied it find that it is extremely accurate when all evidence, including recently discovered archaeological evidence, is considered. 🙄

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God!

the bible is falsified, that's old hat. i've discussed some of the various points in this forum to that conclusion. it's irrelevant that you were not able to accept or understand those conclusions.

real scholars find few things in the bible that are credible.

archeological evidence isn't proof of the bible stories. we have the pillars of heracles. those aren't proof that heracles went around fighting 7 headed hydras. it only proves that the people who wrote the stories were familiar with the names of those places (no guff).

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
the bible is falsified, that's old hat. i've discussed some of the various points in this forum to that conclusion. it's irrelevant that you were not able to accept or understand those conclusions.

real scholars find few things in the bible that are credible.

archeological evidence isn't proof of the bible stories. we have the pillars of heracle ...[text shortened]... at the people who wrote the stories were familiar with the names of those places (no guff).

Where did you get your proof? I bet it was from some atheist website. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
Where did you get your proof? I bet it was from some atheist website. 🙄

i got my proof from reading the bible. it's a self-defeating text that anybody with half a brain and some reasoning ability can find out on their own.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
i got my proof from reading the bible. it's a self-defeating text that anybody with half a brain and some reasoning ability can find out on their own.

Well, that rules out you, numbnuts. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
Again numbnuts, we are talking about a worldwide flood in which only a few people are saved, not routine flooding of lands which happen all the time. Please get your head out!

More nasty language from a false prophet?

Originally posted by kbear1k
More nasty language from a false prophet?

I am not a prophet. I am an American citizen claiming my right to free speech. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Originally posted by Suzianne
Exactly which Sumerian god are you talking about??

I wouldn't exactly be so quick to equate the monotheistic religion of the Hebrews with the polytheistic religion of the Sumerians.

The Samaritans, on the other hand, were merely citizens of Samaria, which was the capital of the Kingdom of Israel during the reign of Omri. So yeah, I guess they were He rians.

You really should make an effort to know what you are talking about before you post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

YHVH was originally one of El's grandchildren or something.

Here's a book to look at:

tinyurl.com/76y3bao

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

YHVH was originally one of El's grandchildren or something.

Here's a book to look at:

tinyurl.com/76y3bao

Or something? I think you need some education. As your reference points out El is a word in many ancient languages that means "deity" and can refer to the true God or a false god.

YHVH or YHWH is the Hebrew for "I AM WHO I AM" and is shortened to YH meaning "I AM". YH is YAH, as in HalleluYAH meaning "praise YAH" or "praise the Lord" as is commonly said today. This was the name the true God told Moses to call Him. Later Christ, as the Son of God, came in the flesh in His Father's name YAH. The actual name given to Christ, meaning" the annointed One" was "YAHshua" meaning "YAH saves". He was prophecied to be called "Immanuel" meaning "God with us", which He is by many Christians today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton

YAHshua came down to us English speakers from Hebrew by way of the Greek and Latin as Jesus. The "Y" or "I" sound was later replace by a new English letter "J" for a hard sound.

http://theletterj.followersofyah.com/

http://www.biblicalheritage.org/God/el-goi.htm

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
http://www.biblicalheritage.org/God/el-goi.htm

This guy has a complete misunderstanding of El and YHWH. El is not a personal name of God or a god. It is a generic name meaning "deity" as your first referenced link had pointed out. YHWH or YH for short is the personal name of the true "El" or "Elohim" (GOD in three persons).

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Originally posted by RJHinds
This guy has a complete misunderstanding of El and YHWH. El is not a personal name of God or a god. It is a generic name meaning "deity" as your first referenced link had pointed out. YHWH or YH for short is the personal name of the true "El" or "Elohim" (GOD in three persons).

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

you're the one who has no clue. "el" is the name of the supreme deity of the sumerians. it later expanded through sumerian influence to become a generic word for deity in the region.

in the bible, the hebrew tribal deity was originally identified as "el shaddai"
the hebrews later adopted yhvh (yahweh), the name of another local deity, an edomite storm god... appearing to them with all the huhu of dark storm clouds. the rival of baal.

the hebrews picked up on civilization and religion from the many cities they ransacked. sort of like the mongols, in miniature.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
you're the one who has no clue. "el" is the name of the supreme deity of the sumerians. it later expanded through sumerian influence to become a generic word for deity in the region.

in the bible, the hebrew tribal deity was originally identified as "el shaddai"
the hebrews later adopted yhvh (yahweh), the name of another local deity, an edomite sto ...[text shortened]... and religion from the many cities they ransacked. sort of like the mongols, in miniature.

You are so convinced of your own wisdom that it is useless to present any truth to you to dispel such ignorance. 😏