Originally posted by divegeester I've noticed this trend lately where you like to chip in and yet say nothing.
Yes I have judged that my mere presence is enough to have reality set in. Its much more economical than words. Glad you noticed. Its really quite amusing, months later and to borrow a phrase here you are still 'chuntering', on about Hell and trying to catch Bobs with cunning and guile. Most amusing, its like time has really stood still for you these last four months.
Originally posted by divegeester If you truly believe that there is a "horrific eternal destiny" awaiting those people who fail to find credibility in the gospels; do you think that telling all those in this peril that the physical location of this horror destination is actually in a location that can be envisaged as something from a set from Journey to the Center of The Earth and that this somehow increases the credibility of the gospel?
"the credibility of the gospel" doesn't require "credibility" increase or enhancement; accept it for your eternal happiness or reject it at your peril. You may be here to play verbal games; I'm not. All believer's are mandated to redeem the time. Thought you were becoming serious but was wrong.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby "the credibility of the gospel" doesn't require "credibility" increase or enhancement; accept it for your eternal happiness or reject it at your peril. You may be here to play verbal games; I'm not. All believer's are mandated to redeem the time. Thought you were becoming serious but was wrong.
Expecting to be taken seriously when proposing that hell is a real place at the earth's core, while acusing those who question you on it of playing "verbal games" is a low for you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Yes I have judged that my mere presence is enough to have reality set in. Its much more economical than words. Glad you noticed. Its really quite amusing, months later and to borrow a phrase here you are still 'chuntering', on about Hell and trying to catch Bobs with cunning and guile. Most amusing, its like time has really stood still for you these last four months.
No, I've just noticed that since I threatened to send a script of your poor behaviour here to every Kingdom Hall in Glasgow, you have become a shadow of your former silly self 🙂
Originally posted by Zahlanzi you do understand many concepts are real, right? love, happiness, democracy, they are all concepts.
Yes, I get that, but the word also deals in abstract or general notions.
Hell as a real place for real reasons would be different than a feeling of being happy, and
democracy can be a debatable word too.
Originally posted by KellyJay Yes, I get that, but the word also deals in abstract or general notions.
Hell as a real place for real reasons would be different than a feeling of being happy, and
democracy can be a debatable word too.
Sure, except the entire concept of hell was invented 100% by man, no deity involved. Just another ploy of the Abrahamic religions in the attempt to snare and control people. Have to admit, it worked extremely well. That still doesn't make it real. It is a fiction and no more real than Noah's flood which was another apocryphal tale to scare weak minds.
Originally posted by divegeester No, I've just noticed that since I threatened to send a script of your poor behaviour here to every Kingdom Hall in Glasgow, you have become a shadow of your former silly self 🙂
Yes and the real reason wasn't really that its futile to attempt to reason with someone that keeps droning on about hell for months on end like some tortured bagpipe. Yes I understand your propaganda is real to you. 😵
Originally posted by sonhouse Sure, except the entire concept of hell was invented 100% by man, no deity involved. Just another ploy of the Abrahamic religions in the attempt to snare and control people. Have to admit, it worked extremely well. That still doesn't make it real. It is a fiction and no more real than Noah's flood which was another apocryphal tale to scare weak minds.
Your default position is no deity involved no matter what, so it is not much of an argument
coming from you.
Originally posted by KellyJay Your default position is no deity involved no matter what, so it is not much of an argument
coming from you.
It is just a fact, show me hell if it is so real. There is no such thing. A real deity would have much better ways to deal with bad guys. Exactly what would said deity actually get out of having people in permanent pain anyway? You ever think of that angle? What would be the motivation for a GOD, capable of calling in an entire universe, to set up a system where a certain portion of humanity would be shunted to this horrible place of constant torture? And on the other hand, you call it a loving god.
Originally posted by sonhouse It is just a fact, show me hell if it is so real. There is no such thing. A real deity would have much better ways to deal with bad guys. Exactly what would said deity actually get out of having people in permanent pain anyway? You ever think of that angle? What would be the motivation for a GOD, capable of calling in an entire universe, to set up a system ...[text shortened]... nd on the other hand, you call it a loving god.
The whole edifice is man made, nothing more.
I'm not sure why you keep coming up with things that mean, "if God were real" it doesn't
matter what anyone believes or says about God you are going to find some reason to
dismiss it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Yes and the real reason wasn't really that its futile to attempt to reason with someone that keeps droning on about hell for months on end like some tortured bagpipe. Yes I understand your propaganda is real to you. 😵
If you bother to check you will find that the vast majority of the threads about hell are not started by me. But then facts are not your strong point are they.
Hell as a concept
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