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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
For me 'truth' is universal. I am sitting in front of the computer. That is true. I am at work. That is true.
In your personal opinion, is 'homosexuality is immoral' a "universal truth"?

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Originally posted by FMF
Let people decide for themselves if you have been participating in this discussion in good faith. I am perfectly happy for people to make what they will of my attempts to discuss morality here. But I certainly wouldn't want to be looking back on your behaviour as if it were mine.
So you think you have never missed a question that someone has asked you? At least I admit to be human.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
There is no where in the universe where this reality will not be true. Truth corresponds with reality. When a statement is made and it corresponds with fact, with actuality, I believe it is true. I see no difference between 'truth' and 'universal truth'.
The "reality" of the universe you perceive is populated by gods and angels and devils and other supernatural phenomena. I don't share your superstitions. And yet you attach the term "universal truth" to the things you claim and imagine. Other than the extent to which it indicates how self-obsessed you are, it's meaningless to me.

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Originally posted by FMF
In your personal opinion, is 'homosexuality is immoral' a "universal truth"?
I believe it is immoral because the Bible seems to say so at least by my understanding. But I have friends who practise this lifestyle and I try not to judge.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you think you have never missed a question that someone has asked you? At least I admit to be human.
On this thread, I am not talking about "a question" that you've missed. I am talking about dozens and dozens of observations, viewpoints, questions and comments of mine that have been quite obviously and deliberately ignored. In many ways, the conversation has been lopsided with you blanking out most of what I am saying and then asking about already-answered/already-addressed matters over and over and over and over again, ad nauseam. My complaint is not about how you "missed a question".

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Originally posted by FMF
The "reality" of the universe you perceive is populated by gods and angels and devils and other supernatural phenomena. I don't share your superstitions. And yet you attach the term "universal truth" to the things you claim and imagine. Other than the extent to which it indicates how self-obsessed you are, it's meaningless to me.
Of course you look down on my beliefs and call them 'superstitions' yet you call your own superstitions 'gut feelings' because somehow that makes you feel better.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I believe [homosexuality] is immoral because the Bible seems to say so at least by my understanding.
Do you believe that 'homosexuality is immoral' is a "universal truth"?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Of course you look down on my beliefs and call them 'superstitions' yet you call your own superstitions 'gut feelings' because somehow that makes you feel better.
I use the word "superstition" to mean a belief in supernatural causality. If your belief system is, indeed, based on notions of supernatural causality, I do not see why you have reason to feel looked down upon.

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Originally posted by FMF
On this thread, I am not talking about "a question" that you've missed. I am talking about dozens and dozens of observations, viewpoints, questions and comments of mine that have been quite obviously and deliberately ignored. In many ways, the conversation has been lopsided with you blanking out most of what I am saying and then asking about already-answered/alr ...[text shortened]... over and over and over again, ad nauseam. My complaint is not about how you "missed a question".
Which question of yours have I 'deliberately' ignored? Feel free to ask it again.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
...you call your own superstitions 'gut feelings' because somehow that makes you feel better.
You can call my gut feelings "superstition" if you want, I don't mind.

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you believe that 'homosexuality is immoral' is a "universal truth"?
I told you before I see no difference between 'truth' and 'universal truth', so what is the point of adding the word 'universal' to your questions? I believe it is a moral truth that is revealed in the Bible. How many times would you like to hear this?

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Originally posted by FMF
I use the word "superstition" to mean a belief in supernatural causality. If your belief system is, indeed, based on notions of supernatural causality, I do not see why you have reason to feel looked down upon.
SInce you are insistent that truth is not universal, would you care to mention anything that you believe to be 'true' that is not 'universally true'.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Which question of yours have I 'deliberately' ignored? Feel free to ask it again.
I have already wasted enough time typing out countless sentences and paragraphs for you. Even when I reposted them you ignored them again. Even when I bumped some of them You ignored them again. I have lost count of how many times you asked me about things that I had already addressed in detail. Like I said, let people decide for themselves if you have been conducting yourself in this discussion in an honest and sincere fashion. They can make the same evaluation of me if they want.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I told you before I see no difference between 'truth' and 'universal truth', so what is the point of adding the word 'universal' to your questions?
If it were not for your incessant and ideological use of the word "universal", I probably would not have used it even once on this thread.

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Originally posted by FMF
If it were not for your incessant and ideological use of the word "universal", I probably would not have used it even once on this thread.
I only used the word 'universal truth' to differentiate it from 'relative truth', which some people may believe in.

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