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    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will claim that it contains the word of god, fine, but it ISN'T God, it's just a book. It cannot BE itself holy any more than the New Testament is holy, or the book of Psalms is holy, or a bible tract containing lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will c ...[text shortened]... ining lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
    My dictionary says:

    Holy:
    Dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred.

    What is your definition?

    What is the word translated from in the verse you mentioned?

    Would it bother you if someone burnt a Bible? (deliberately as an intended offensive act).
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    02 Dec '14 11:04
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will c ...[text shortened]... ining lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
    "... it's just a book"?

    "I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." Psalm 138:1-2 Jesus Himself said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Word shall never pass away." Luke 21:33 "The Word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the dividing asunder of the souls and the spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a critic of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 4:12 It's the mind of Christ.
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    02 Dec '14 11:09
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will c ...[text shortened]... ining lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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    It is easy enough to open a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and see how many times in the whole Bible the word "holy" was applied to something inanimate.

    Ie. the marriage bed is holy,
    holy anointing oil,
    holy ground.

    twhitehead had a point. Things consecrated to God are often described in the Bible as holy. Even the secular dictionary knew that.
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    02 Dec '14 17:46
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will c ...[text shortened]... ining lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
    To be fair, Christians don't try to lop off your head if you burn a Bible, or so much as sneeze on it.

    Islam, on the other hand, has made the Quran an idol to be worshipped 24/7.
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    All good points, thanks.

    To be clear I'm not about to start attacking the bible in some way. I agree with you all.

    Must be a bit of a first.
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    03 Dec '14 00:46
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Some posters always use the prefix "holy" when referring to the bible. It always jars with me for some reason so I stopped to think about it a little.

    Firstly Rev 15:4 points out that only God is holy. And there are other scriptures supporting this statement.

    Secondly, to call an inanimate object "holy" is idolatry - isn't it?

    OK, some will c ...[text shortened]... ining lots of scripture verses is holy, or a hymn book containing scriptural references is holy.
    The word "holy" is also translated "clean".
    God is clean and His word the Bible is clean also in a spiritual way.
    There is no Satanic influence in the Bible.
    This assures us that we are getting the truth from God.
    There are many occasions in history when God intervened to protect the transmission of his unadulterated word down to our day.
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    03 Dec '14 04:00
    Originally posted by divegeester
    All good points, thanks.

    To be clear I'm not about to start attacking the bible in some way. I agree with you all.

    Must be a bit of a first.
    Holy complications, Batman!
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    03 Dec '14 05:18
    Originally posted by roigam
    There is no Satanic influence in the Bible.
    How do you know?

    If there was ;- what would be a tell-tale sign?
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    On further reflection let me clarify two things:

    1) I know what holy means - directed at riogam

    2) those examples are from scripture and are correct I believe, but the bible is not called "holy" in scripture so that defence is not really robust. - directed at sonship
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    03 Dec '14 05:55
    Originally posted by roigam

    There are many occasions in history when God intervened to protect the transmission of his unadulterated word down to our day.
    I'd be interested in knowing more about these please?
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    03 Dec '14 07:20
    Originally posted by divegeester
    2) those examples are from scripture and are correct I believe, but the bible is not called "holy" in scripture so that defence is not really robust. - directed at sonship
    The fact that you differentiate 'scripture' from other historical writings suggests you think there is something special about it.
    And there is really no way the Bible could be called 'holy' in scripture as it did not exist at that time.

    Wikipedia suggests 'scripture' and 'holy writ' or 'holy books' are almost synonymous.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text#Other_terms
    Religious texts, also known as scripture, scriptures, holy writ, or holy books, are the texts which various religious traditions consider to be sacred, or central to their religious tradition.
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    03 Dec '14 08:23
    Originally posted by whodey
    To be fair, Christians don't try to lop off your head if you burn a Bible, or so much as sneeze on it.

    Islam, on the other hand, has made the Quran an idol to be worshipped 24/7.
    If you and I are wrong, and Islam is in fact the true revelation of God to mankind, then your queasiness is rather moot.
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    03 Dec '14 11:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    To be fair, Christians don't try to lop off your head if you burn a Bible, or so much as sneeze on it.

    Islam, on the other hand, has made the Quran an idol to be worshipped 24/7.
    Muslims actually believe what they say they believe, unlike you who is well known for posting utter nonsense that you don't believe. I am still waiting for for you to confirm that you believe humans had nuclear power millions of years ago.
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