How does the shifting of moral principles affect the Christian church today?

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Nobody wants to be raped.
Therefore it is wrong.
Pretty simple really - I don't need a book to tell me its wrong.
Do you?

Nobody wants to be killed. Is it always wrong to kill?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Nobody wants to be killed. Is it always wrong to kill?

yes

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
yes

Would you therefore regard “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” as a moral absolute?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Would you therefore regard “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” as a moral absolute?

no

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Nobody wants to be killed. Is it always wrong to kill?

Please show that “Nobody wants to be killed” is true and its relevance to the claim that killing is always wrong.

Originally posted by @js357
Please show that “Nobody wants to be killed” is true and its relevance to the claim that killing is always wrong.

Take it up with wolf. It's his logic.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
yes

No self defense exception?
How about a right to die for terminally ill patients?

Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
No self defense exception?
How about a right to die for terminally ill patients?

My short answers are aimed at dj2beckers intellect!

1. Self defence ... from a logical, moral perspective I feel it is still difficult to justify.
(Why should my life be worth more than my attackers?) but on practical grounds no, killing can be justified.

2. I would always support the right of everyone to euthanasia.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
My short answers are aimed at dj2beckers intellect!

1. Self defence ... from a logical, moral perspective I feel it is still difficult to justify.
(Why should my life be worth more than my attackers?) but on practical grounds no, killing can be justified.

2. I would always support the right of everyone to euthanasia.

I see you have no problem contradicting yourself at every turn. Superior intellect and all.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
My short answers are aimed at dj2beckers intellect!

1. Self defence ... from a logical, moral perspective I feel it is still difficult to justify.
(Why should my life be worth more than my attackers?) but on practical grounds no, killing can be justified.

2. I would always support the right of everyone to euthanasia.

It just seems like a trite 'yes', when there are obvious exceptions, gives your debate opponent ammo to use against you. (How hard is it to add "In general, yes", which allows for exceptions?)

As for self defense, a person who lives in peace with others has a strong claim of value of their own life versus a person who initiates aggression and force against others.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
... in reality Christianity is founded upon a relationship between the person and the Lord Jesus Christ...

I've met him a few times. Pretty sure he was mentally challenged.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I see you have no problem contradicting yourself at every turn. Superior intellect and all.

If you want to interpret my shorthand answers as contradictions then go for it.
Whatever makes you happy.

Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
(How hard is it to add "In general, yes", which allows for exceptions?)

Hardish, but not very hard. Harder than "not hard at all".

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
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1. Self defence ... from a logical, moral perspective I feel it is still difficult to justify. ...

How? If defending yourself is corrupt, I guess helping you wife or kids or parents or neighbors or friends not get abused must be even worse.

Originally posted by @apathist
I've met him a few times. Pretty sure he was mentally challenged.

Whom have you met a few times?