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Originally posted by FMFI never met any such people who were not believers. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?
Do you believe that people who sincerely and seriously [b]think that they will eventually "together be the corporate Bride of Christ" will therefore be saved?[/b]
Is this a question designed to get me to slam the door of salvation close on other people?
Originally posted by sonshipNo. Not at all. You have blurted out a response rather than consider what I asked. What I am getting at is: what more than merely thinking certain things about oneself, about Jesus, and about "God", according to you, is necessary for one [a Christian that is] to be "saved" and to become immortal?
I never met any such people. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?
Is this a question designed to get me to slam the door of salvation close on other people?
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Originally posted by FMFAnother late night "blurt out":
No. Not at all. You have blurted out a response rather than consider what I asked. What I am getting at is: what more than merely [b]thinking certain things about oneself, about Jesus, and about "God", according to you, is necessary for one [a Christian that is] to be "saved" and to become immortal?[/b]
I know pretty much what you're "getting at" in one way or another.
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I never met any such people who were not believers. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?
Originally posted by sonshipSo? In your mind, a Christian just has to think certain things about him/herself, and about what Jesus "means" and represents, and about the nature of "God", and he or she can be "saved" and become immortal, right?
Another late night "blurt out".
I know pretty much what you're "getting at" in one way or another.
Originally posted by FMFI think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.
So? In your mind, a Christian just has to [b]think certain things about him/herself, and about what Jesus "means" and represents, and about the nature of "God", and he or she can be "saved" and become immortal, right?[/b]
If I drop that belief and pick up your philosophy what does it offer me?
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Originally posted by sonshipI am asking you to explain your philosophy, sonship, and I am not asking you to adopt mine.
If I drop that belief and pick up your philosophy what does it offer me?
sonship: I think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.
If you think these things, you can be immortal ~ live on after death ~ right? That is your message?
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Originally posted by FMFI'm asking you to tell me what advantages your philosophy has over my relationship with Christ. In the last 8 hours I have enjoyed Christ. Had I spent those last hours committed to your philosophy what would it have done for me ?
I am asking you to explain your philosophy, sonship, and I am not asking you to adopt mine.
[b]I think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.
If you think these things, you can be immortal ~ live on after death ~ right? That is your message?[/b]
Immortality can wait. What about today - the last 8 hours?
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Originally posted by sonshipThis is not an answer to my question. I am not claiming that my philosophy has any advantage over yours for you. Asking me this is merely evasion. I am scrutinizing claims you have made here in public. Is there more to your claims about "salvation" and "immortality" than believers simply having to think certain things?
I'm asking you to tell me what advantages your philosophy has over my relationship with Christ. In the last 8 hours I have enjoyed Christ. Had I spent those last hours committed to your philosophy what would it have done for me ?
Immortality can wait. What about today - the last 8 hours?