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    18 Aug '15 19:041 edit
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202430/I-married-Jesus-Religion-teacher-38-marries-God-wedding-ceremony-attracts-hundreds.html

    "'I am married to Jesus': Consecrated virgin, 38, marries God in wedding ceremony that attracts hundreds"
    --Kiri Blakeley (18 August 2015)

    Jessica Hayes, a theology teacher at an American Catholic high school,
    is a consecrated virgin. which is similar to being a nun except that she
    follows her religious calling outside of a convent. A consecrated virgin is
    required to pledge that she has led and intends to maintain a chaste life.

    Jessica Hayes said that she hopes that her public example of commitment
    may encourage other women to consider becoming consecrated virgins as well.
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    18 Aug '15 19:14
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202430/I-married-Jesus-Religion-teacher-38-marries-God-wedding-ceremony-attracts-hundreds.html

    "'I am married to Jesus': Consecrated virgin, 38, marries God in wedding ceremony that attracts hundreds"
    --Kiri Blakeley (18 August 2015)

    Jessica Hayes, a theology teacher at an American Catholic high school,
    is ...[text shortened]... ample of commitment
    may encourage other women to consider becoming consecrated virgins as well.
    Chastity is very undervalued in western culture.
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    18 Aug '15 19:362 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Chastity is very undervalued in western culture.
    In the context of being a consecrated virgin, there's a distinction between chastity,
    which is spiritual (in the mind) and virginity, which is physical (in the body).
    A woman could remain or become a consecrated virgin even after she was raped because
    she would not have made a voluntary choice to yield herself to her rapist.

    By the way, I thought that Jessica Hayes showed 'the beauty of a bride' that she hoped to display,
    and I wonder if there's a secret admirer who's disappointed by her decision never to marry a man.
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    Everyone who is saved eventually will together be the corporate Bride of Christ. See Revelation 21 and 22.
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    19 Aug '15 04:42
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202430/I-married-Jesus-Religion-teacher-38-marries-God-wedding-ceremony-attracts-hundreds.html

    "'I am married to Jesus': Consecrated virgin, 38, marries God in wedding ceremony that attracts hundreds"
    --Kiri Blakeley (18 August 2015)

    Jessica Hayes, a theology teacher at an American Catholic high school,
    is ...[text shortened]... ample of commitment
    may encourage other women to consider becoming consecrated virgins as well.
    Isn't this a normal theolgical mind-set with catholic nuns?
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    19 Aug '15 04:45
    Originally posted by sonship
    Everyone who is saved eventually will together be the corporate Bride of Christ.
    Do you believe that people who sincerely and seriously think that they will eventually "together be the corporate Bride of Christ" will therefore be saved?
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    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you believe that people who sincerely and seriously [b]think that they will eventually "together be the corporate Bride of Christ" will therefore be saved?[/b]
    I never met any such people who were not believers. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?

    Is this a question designed to get me to slam the door of salvation close on other people?
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    19 Aug '15 05:03
    Originally posted by sonship
    I never met any such people. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?

    Is this a question designed to get me to slam the door of salvation close on other people?
    No. Not at all. You have blurted out a response rather than consider what I asked. What I am getting at is: what more than merely thinking certain things about oneself, about Jesus, and about "God", according to you, is necessary for one [a Christian that is] to be "saved" and to become immortal?
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    19 Aug '15 05:122 edits
    Originally posted by FMF
    No. Not at all. You have blurted out a response rather than consider what I asked. What I am getting at is: what more than merely [b]thinking certain things about oneself, about Jesus, and about "God", according to you, is necessary for one [a Christian that is] to be "saved" and to become immortal?[/b]
    Another late night "blurt out":
    I know pretty much what you're "getting at" in one way or another.

    My edited post was:

    I never met any such people who were not believers. Is this a question to get me all sectarianized?
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    Originally posted by sonship
    Another late night "blurt out".
    I know pretty much what you're "getting at" in one way or another.
    So? In your mind, a Christian just has to think certain things about him/herself, and about what Jesus "means" and represents, and about the nature of "God", and he or she can be "saved" and become immortal, right?
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    19 Aug '15 05:26
    Originally posted by FMF
    So? In your mind, a Christian just has to [b]think certain things about him/herself, and about what Jesus "means" and represents, and about the nature of "God", and he or she can be "saved" and become immortal, right?[/b]
    I think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.

    If I drop that belief and pick up your philosophy what does it offer me?
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    Originally posted by sonship
    If I drop that belief and pick up your philosophy what does it offer me?
    I am asking you to explain your philosophy, sonship, and I am not asking you to adopt mine.

    sonship: I think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.

    If you think these things, you can be immortal ~ live on after death ~ right? That is your message?
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    Originally posted by FMF
    I am asking you to explain your philosophy, sonship, and I am not asking you to adopt mine.

    [b]I think Jesus saves. I think Jesus Himself IS salvation.


    If you think these things, you can be immortal ~ live on after death ~ right? That is your message?[/b]
    I'm asking you to tell me what advantages your philosophy has over my relationship with Christ. In the last 8 hours I have enjoyed Christ. Had I spent those last hours committed to your philosophy what would it have done for me ?

    Immortality can wait. What about today - the last 8 hours?
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    Originally posted by sonship
    I'm asking you to tell me what advantages your philosophy has over my relationship with Christ. In the last 8 hours I have enjoyed Christ. Had I spent those last hours committed to your philosophy what would it have done for me ?

    Immortality can wait. What about today - the last 8 hours?
    This is not an answer to my question. I am not claiming that my philosophy has any advantage over yours for you. Asking me this is merely evasion. I am scrutinizing claims you have made here in public. Is there more to your claims about "salvation" and "immortality" than believers simply having to think certain things?
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    19 Aug '15 05:39
    Originally posted by FMF
    I am not claiming that my philosophy has any advantage over yours for you.
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    That's too bad. Good night.
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