Originally posted by Rajk999I am not for judging people by their eating habits. But I am a strict vegetarian,teetotaler,non-smoker by choice. I used to eat meat but never beef. I gave up drinking and meat eating in 1996 July. This was out of revulsion arising out of two things. One was the feeling that it was a shameful on my part that helpless animals were to be killed as my food. Another was the thought that I had enough. I gave up smoking for health reasons.
Thanks for the compliment but Im really small potatoes around here. There are many more big guns with far more knowledge that what I can ever hope to acheive.
So do you share Dasa's disdain for meat-eaters?
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoBut helpless plants are OK? Would hunting the animals and giving them a 'fair fight' make any difference to your decision?
One was the feeling that it was a shameful on my part that helpless animals were to be killed as my food.
Another was the thought that I had enough.
Enough of what? Would you ever have enough plants and give those up too?
Originally posted by twhiteheadA vegan i.e.one who eats only fallen fruit and cooks ripe grains fallen from stalks will still be guilty in your eyes because he/she will be killing millions of microbes during his/her activities. No one this world be totally free from this sort of violence. Yet it is exceedingly easier on my conscience, if I do not eat meat than when I am a meat eater.
But helpless plants are OK? Would hunting the animals and giving them a 'fair fight' make any difference to your decision?
[b]Another was the thought that I had enough.
Enough of what? Would you ever have enough plants and give those up too?[/b]
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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoIn response to your challenge in the other thread, I put it to you that you cannot both believe that killing "helpless animals" for food is "shameful" and not "judg[e] people by their eating habits". That is inconsistent.
I am not for judging people by their eating habits. But I am a strict vegetarian,teetotaler,non-smoker by choice. I used to eat meat but never beef. I gave up drinking and meat eating in 1996 July. This was out of revulsion arising out of two things. One was the feeling that it was a shameful on my part that helpless animals were to be killed as my food. Another was the thought that I had enough. I gave up smoking for health reasons.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoDo you believe a vegetarian is morally better than other people?
A vegan i.e.one who eats only fallen fruit and cooks ripe grains fallen from stalks will still be guilty in your eyes because he/she will be killing millions of microbes during his/her activities. No one this world be totally free from this sort of violence. Yet it is exceedingly easier on my conscience, if I do not eat meat than when I am a meat eater.
Originally posted by Green PaladinI judge myself by my own standards. But I cannot impose them on others. Each one to his/her beliefs and views. Communication need not break down between persons of opposing views, though pursuasion may go on.
In response to your challenge in the other thread, I put it to you that you cannot both believe that killing "helpless animals" for food is "shameful" and not "judg[e] people by their eating habits". That is inconsistent.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoActually fallen fruit are new unborn plants. But no, I said nothing of guilt, I just want to understand your logic.
A vegan i.e.one who eats only fallen fruit and cooks ripe grains fallen from stalks will still be guilty in your eyes because he/she will be killing millions of microbes during his/her activities.
No one this world be totally free from this sort of violence. Yet it is exceedingly easier on my conscience, if I do not eat meat than when I am a meat eater.
And I want to understand why. Why is it easier to kill a plant than an animal?
Originally posted by RJHindsNo, not at all. Nobody wil become a saint by desisting from eating meat. One of our saints was a butcher. Goutam Buddha ate meat. Vivekananda ate meat. Gandhi ate meat ( when he was young ) , that too by stealing money from his father.
Do you believe a vegetarian is morally better than other people?