Originally posted by whodeyNot necessarily. You argue later in your post that we "all innately know that we are to live by the golden rule".
So you seem to be saying that we have freedom by making up our own rules.
So surely if we follow our own religion and we are honest with ourselves then the "golden rule" would be a component of every bodies personal religion would it not? And we would not be 'making it up'.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadAh yes, the Christless Christianity. Of course, if you think that you can deliver yourself from what ails ya and don't need supernatural intervention for anything at any point, simply because you got it all under control, then I suppose it will work for ya!!
Not necessarily. You argue later in your post that we "all innately know that we are to live by the golden rule".
So surely if we follow our own religion and we are honest with ourselves then the "golden rule" would be a component of every bodies personal religion would it not? And we would not be 'making it up'.
According to Christ, however, whoever the Son sets free is free indeed!! According to him, sin enslaves us and, therefore, we need him to set us free from time to time. Of course, ultimately sin brings death so I guess you will be on your own there as well. 😉
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I thinking of becoming religious
What advice can the panel give please?
I'm not sure thinking is sufficient. Get involved, participate. Find a religious community and see if you feel like you belong. If not, try another, and so on until you find one that suits or you decide against the idea.
Originally posted by whodeyNo, a Christianity-less religion. You said that the rule of 'love your neighbor' was one we all know innately and thus Christianity cannot claim to own such a rule.
Ah yes, the Christless Christianity.
Of course, if you think that you can deliver yourself from what ails ya and don't need supernatural intervention for anything at any point, simply because you got it all under control, then I suppose it will work for ya!!
I simply don't think the term 'supernatural' has any valid meaning.
According to Christ, however, whoever the Son sets free is free indeed!! According to him, sin enslaves us and, therefore, we need him to set us free from time to time.
And according to others, there are other needs etc. However, you have not yet actually given any reason for believing that Christ was right or that his message is more believable than say Mohammed's.
Of course, ultimately sin brings death so I guess you will be on your own there as well. 😉
And of course, ultimately, by 'death' you mean 'eternal punishment in hell'. But of course you cannot explain what that is all about or why I should be punished, or what the punishment achieves. You just announce "this is how it is because the Bible tells me so".
Originally posted by twhiteheadI never said that it owned such a rule. I merely said that it points to it as the golden rule within all of our hearts. In addition, it is a guide to how to deal with mankind when we break this rule, which we all have.
[b]No, a Christianity-less religion. You said that the rule of 'love your neighbor' was one we all know innately and thus Christianity cannot claim to own such a rule.
-Removed-I wouldn't have thought this is something you decide. I'm not religious, but I was brought up by a religious parent so I've got some experience with the notion.
I would guess your 'religiousness' develops either because of your upbringing - that is, your parents and family were also religious - or because of some sort of 'revelatory' experience you have.
I wouldn't think you can just one day get up and decide ... 'hmmm, I think I'll become religious today.'