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If God didn't exist...

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Correct.

But is it the existence or non-existence of a god that causes people to fight about it?
The OP question is not about what effect the existence or non-existence of God has, but what effect putting faith in a non-existent God has.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
The OP question is not about what effect the existence or non-existence of God has, but what effect putting faith in a non-existent God has.
It's like gambling. If you win one round, you think you are king, you believe your ship has come in, even if you went through 10 losing rounds.

So having faith in a non-existent god bolsters your self-confidence in the short term but after a lifetime of having nothing happen has to introduce stress into your life I would think.

At least pretending there is no such thing as a god leads one to expect nothing in the first place of supernatural events.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Correct.

But is it the existence or non-existence of a god that causes people to fight about it?
Surely the existence or non existence of god is irrelevent to the question of what effect the belief in god has had on the course of human history. Trying to weigh up the pros and cons would be a massive task though.

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Originally posted by SwissGambit

]Well, I doubt I'm in the majority ... most of the world believes in a deity of some sort. About 10% of the population is Atheist, IIRC.

Wrong about what? Atheism? Or the stuff I said about faith informing belief and driving the actions of the faithful?
Absolute truth.

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Originally posted by JS357
I am reminded of Pancoast's version whenever I confront what I must do to stay in shape.
😉

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Originally posted by sonhouse
The existence or non-existence of a god never stopped people from fighting about it. Am I wrong?
No.

How about we resume our chess...

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Originally posted by sonhouse
It's like gambling. If you win one round, you think you are king, you believe your ship has come in, even if you went through 10 losing rounds.

So having faith in a non-existent god bolsters your self-confidence in the short term but after a lifetime of having nothing happen has to introduce stress into your life I would think.

At least pretending t ...[text shortened]... s no such thing as a god leads one to expect nothing in the first place of supernatural events.
But it may not be to your liking when you get something you don't expect. 😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
But it may not be to your liking when you get something you don't expect. 😏
So far, 70 years later, so good.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Absolute truth.
I think I can know God doesn't exist in the same way that I know that Unicorns don't exist. The available evidence tells me so. I acknowledge the possibility that I may be wrong in both cases. However, I also think you cannot be absolutely certain about anything you know. When we say "I know X", it can be justified to say so even though we are not 100% sure.

After all, there is a slight possibility that no one really exists, and my consciousness is just the product of some computer simulation...

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
It makes a world of difference.

Faith in God goes hand in hand with believing religious books like the Bible. Based on the Bible, some people think the world is only 6000 years old. They think that the first human was created out of a pile of dust. They think it is OK that God ordered/committed mass killings and genocide in the Old Testament. They bel ...[text shortened]... y planning to politics. To say that having faith makes no difference is a very naive statement.
By this thinking, ANY misapplication of information from ANY source ought to be outlawed--- no matter what the original intent.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
By this thinking, ANY misapplication of information from ANY source ought to be outlawed--- no matter what the original intent.
How the fk do you get that out of what I wrote? 🙄

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]If God didn't exist...


"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV.


gb[/b]
A chain:

1. Goddon't exist.
2. Sumfolks believe even so he do.
3. And sumfolks don't.
4. They tear each others' livers out.
5. The vultures praise God for the bounty of fresh organ meat.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
A chain:

1. Goddon't exist.
2. Sumfolks believe even so he do.
3. And sumfolks don't.
4. They tear each others' livers out.
5. The vultures praise God for the bounty of fresh organ meat.
5. The vultures praise God for the bounty of fresh organ meat.[/b] Or not?

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Originally posted by kevcvs57
5. The vultures praise God for the bounty of fresh organ meat. Or not?[/b]
There's no law against being a humourless berk, is there?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
There's no law against being a humourless berk, is there?
Well I've never been arrested so I am guessing not.