@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYoung or Old, it doesn’t matter if what is proposed in life cannot be done, regardless of how much time is available due to age. For someone who says the universe is eternal, any age would be wrong, so what are you doing on a high horse? I claim I don’t know; you want to quibble between thousands and billions, while you’re bouncing between eternity and billions, your delta is much larger than mine.
The Earth isn't young. Science has shown the Earth to be very old.
This is a given.
@KellyJay saidThe difference between thousands and billions is not quibbling.
Young or Old, it doesn’t matter if what is proposed in life cannot be done, regardless of how much time is available due to age. For someone who says the universe is eternal, any age would be wrong, so what are you doing on a high horse? I claim I don’t know; you want to quibble between thousands and billions, while you’re bouncing between eternity and billions, your delta is much larger than mine.
We 'know' the universe is at least billions of years old. We 'know' it is not a few thousand years old.
That's the point.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidSo why are you telling me this when I tell you I can not prove it at any age?
The difference between thousands and billions is not quibbling.
We 'know' the universe is at least billions of years old. We 'know' it is not a few thousand years old.
That's the point.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThey believe they know, but they have not proven anything. They have no idea how the universe started, and if you are right, they are utterly and completely wrong! So why do you point to them?
Scientists have proven the universe is not young. On what grounds do you disagree with this?
They do not know how it started, and they have no idea what the starting point looked like. Was it a singularity? Was it fully formed? If the universe were fully formed, tracing back in time to determine its age would be impossible; we wouldn’t know where to end. Even our dating measurements make assumptions that may not be true; though the results may be consistent, they may not mean what we think.
You take a lot of things on faith here.
For a while I played an online version of "Exquisite Corpse" and on that site, even though the players could not see the previous lines that others had written, often a story would come full circle and include an element in the last lines that was part of the opening lines.
However, at RHP I think it might be far-fetched to hope that someone might accidentally post something that somehow included the previous digressions and also mentioned earth, air, water, fire, and the quintessence in some neat bundle.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidWhat if I were to tell you that time is a Fresnel lens without dimensions -- not even zero dimensions?
Scientists have proven the universe is not young. On what grounds do you disagree with this?