Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo, indeed. Heterosexual acts have mostly contributed to whatever the rate of HIV and other STDs is among heterosexuals. I won't condemn heterosexual acts though ~ I will only condemn heterosexuals who deliberately or negligently cause harm or deceive or coerce others.
Heterosexuals have not contributed significantly to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK and all arguments pertaining to them are null in this context.
Are we seriously to believe that you think homosexual men are unaware of the health risks associated with their sexual practices?
I think it is morally sound behaviour for homosexual men to keep themselves aware of the health risks associated with their sex lives. The same goes for heterosexuals.
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Originally posted by FMFyou were not asked whether you think it is morally sound for them to remain aware of their behaviour, what you were actually asked was do you think homosexual men are unaware of the health risks associated with their sexual practices?
No, indeed. Heterosexual acts have mostly contributed to whatever the rate of HIV and other STDs is among heterosexuals. I won't condemn heterosexual acts though ~ I will only condemn heterosexuals who deliberately or negligently cause harm or deceive or coerce others.
[b]Are we seriously to believe that you think homosexual men are unaware of the health risk ...[text shortened]... lves aware of the health risks associated with their sex lives. The same goes for heterosexuals.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHeterosexual acts have led to the deaths of millions of people here in Africa.
hetrosuxal acts have not led to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men, .....
So here we have an instance in which behavior has been engaged in which is clearly destructive and you refuse to condemn it as being morally objectionable. Why is that? are you simply intent to ignore the evidence?
So here we have an instance in which behaviour has been engaged in which is clearly destructive and you refuse to condemn it as being morally objectionable. Why is that? are you simply intent to ignore the evidence?
Originally posted by FMFyou were not asked about heterosexuals, you were asked about homosexual men, are or are they not aware of the health risks associated with their sexual behaviour. Its not a very difficult question and this is the third time that you have refused to answer it. Are they aware or are they not aware?
I think that both homosexual and heterosexual women passing on HIV knowingly or negligently are acting in a morally objectionable way.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThose who are negligent in this regard and who therefore pass on diseases to others, or those who are not unaware of their own infection and pass it on regardless, are engaging in morally unsound behaviour to my way of thinking. The same goes for heterosexuals.
you were not asked whether you think it is morally sound for them to remain aware of their behaviour, what you were actually asked was do you think homosexual men are unaware of the health risks associated with their sexual practices?
Originally posted by twhiteheadI am not discussing heterosexuals in Africa, i am discussing homosexual men in the UK. I cannot make that any clearer.
Heterosexual acts have led to the deaths of millions of people here in Africa.
So here we have an instance in which behaviour has been engaged in which is clearly destructive and you refuse to condemn it as being morally objectionable. Why is that? are you simply intent to ignore the evidence?
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Originally posted by FMFare they aware or are they unaware of the health risks associated with their sexual behaviour?
Those who are negligent in this regard and who therefore pass on diseases to others, or those who are not unaware of their own infection and pass it on regardless, are engaging in morally unsound behaviour to my way of thinking. The same goes for heterosexuals.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut the morally unsound behaviour has the same basis whether the person is heterosexual or homosexual: and that is willfully or negligently damaging someone else, deceiving them, or coercing someone else in a sexual relationship. This is the basis for deciding whether morally unsound acts have been committed, and not their sexuality or their sexual acts, whether they be of the heterosexual or homosexual kind. Each and every sexually active heterosexual and homosexual is responsible for their awareness of their own sexual health and it will vary from person to person.
you were not asked about heterosexuals, you were asked about homosexual men, are or are they not aware of the health risks associated with their sexual behaviour. Its not a very difficult question and this is the third time that you have refused to answer it. Are they aware or are they not aware?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieEach and every sexually active heterosexual and homosexual is responsible for their awareness of their own sexual health and it will vary from person to person.
are they aware or are they unaware of the health risks associated with their sexual behaviour?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe moral issues pertaining to knowingly or negligently passing on infection and disease through sexual acts are the same in Africa as they are in the UK.
I am not discussing heterosexuals in Africa, i am discussing homosexual men in the UK. I cannot make that any clearer.
Originally posted by FMFSo yes homosexuals are aware that there sexual practices contain health risks and yet they practice them anyway which has resulted in the UK of the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men, and you will not condemn them. Thank you, no more questions.
Each and every sexually active heterosexual and homosexual is responsible for their awareness of their own sexual health and it will vary from person to person.
Originally posted by FMFthe homosexual men in the UK were fully aware that their sexual practices carried with it inherent health risks and yet they still engaged in them and you will not condemn them morally.
The moral issues pertaining to knowingly or negligently passing on infection and disease through sexual acts are the same in Africa as they are in the UK.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell I do condemn them if they pass on diseases deliberately or through negligence and I condemn heterosexuals too for the same reason if they do the same.
So yes homosexuals are aware that there sexual practices contain health risks and yet they practice them anyway which has resulted in the UK of the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men, and you will not condemn them. Thank you, no more questions.