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If it's proven there's no god

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Originally posted by moonbus
Prophylactic edit:
[hyperbole]You seem to think that's half the human race.[/hyperbole]
[sarcasm]I can see how your life would get tedious...[/sarcasm]
[motivational affidavit]Droll.[/motivational affidavit]
lol... ok, that was good.

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Originally posted by LemonJello
To be clear, you are not under any obligation to take the thought experiment seriously. Take it or leave it, that's up to you. But let's refrain from misrepresenting it and the motivations of those who offer it up beyond all get out, mmmkay?
Let's also refrain from assumptive mind-reading, too, while we're at it, yes?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't see how one that deeply loves his wife could actually believe what you say. But I guess that is just me. Beat me with a wet noodle. 😏
A fun exercise is to read his posts and count up how many deadly sins are exemplified in just one of his posts. I once got up to five.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
We adopted twin boys who were severely abused, we got them in full body casts and they didn't get out of them till they were 5 months old. The birth mom was a prostitute who hated the father and took that hate out on the twins. They were also born addicted to cocaine and heroin, crack babies.

We almost lost the love of our other kids over this, but they ...[text shortened]... rocky road for a long time but they have come out ok, as best as they can get, in the long road.
You got a special place in my heart. When we were in the hospital for
our daughter, there was a baby in the next room that was crack baby. He
was the in the worse shape in the hospital at that time of the kids there till
we got there. It broke my heart when we were in there with Ramie for him,
my wife stayed with Ramie every day for 3 months, I came on my days off
it was over a 100 miles from where we lived to the hospital she was in.
Children miracle network helped pay for my wife's room so we always help
them when we can. I was only working part time at that time, my wife quit
her job so she could be with Ramie before we knew what was wrong with
her.

That poor kid in the next room had no one who came to see him, and we
were there for 3 months from Ramie's 4th month through her 7th. We all
wanted him, us the other parents who were there for their kids, even the
nurses, but he had a mom, she just didn't show up. Right before we left his
dad showed up that was good. Never knew what happen to him after we
left, I think about him from time to time.

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you think she is trying to facilitate and encourage debate and discussion between people with different beliefs on this debate and discussion forum, including participation in a thought exercise like this one, or do you think she is trying to inhibit debate and discussion by browbeating people with different beliefs from her, deflecting by projecting motivati ...[text shortened]... ng to change the topic into her own 'manufactured outrage' rather than the hypothetical in hand?
Why don't you answer this question about your own forum habits, as this is apparently your OWN forum M.O.: "All misogyny, all the time!" Why do you insist on deflecting attention and hiding behind your own faults by accusing others of the very same thing? As Andy said, "You beat all, you know that?"


Originally posted by FMF
If the hypothetical were 'Imagine if the U.S. had completely lost its capacity to project military power outside its own hemisphere over the last 20 years, what impact would it have had on the world we live in today?', as a proud and patriotic American, would you be genuinely offended?
Apples and oranges, good job.

Oh wait, both of those are on trees. Okay, apples and potatoes then, as the two "hypotheticals" you are comparing have *nothing* to do with one another.

One I care deeply about, and the other I couldn't really give a fig about. But, hey, way to compare them anyways.


Originally posted by OdBod
Well done!!! Proof positive that you don't need religion or god to bring out the best in people!
Maybe sonhouse still retains some of his Christian upbringing as a child. 😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Maybe sonhouse still retains some of his Christian upbringing as a child. 😏
What's that called? Oh yes, backhanded compliment....

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Originally posted by FMF
Believe what? Whose wife? What are you on about? I'm talking about manufactured outrage in the face of the OP's hypothetical.
Sorry, my post here that I have chosen to delete was driven by me (and possibly RJH) mixing up responses from you and moonbus.

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Originally posted by sonship
What did you think of Rollo May?
My apologies, I almost missed this post, as it was sort of buried under the avalanche of thread hijacking going on.

I'm not a big fan of existential psychology. It seems to be too awash in philosophy for me, and thus represents how some would like psychology to be versus how it actually is. Rollo May first had his training and background in theology, so I can see why he would seek to mesh philosophy with psychology. His work on anxiety, though, was an important seminal work in the field.

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Originally posted by FMF
Apples and oranges, mate. Suzianne has to decide whether to answer, or not answer, the question "If it could actually be proven that the Christian god doesn't exist, how would that change your life, if you're a Christian?" Unless this question formed part of the aftermath of the humanitarian disaster in Haiti, you don't necessarily know what it's like to walk a mile in Suzianne's forum bovver boots.
Not really a fan of walking a mile in another's shoes, are you? Do you have ANY compassion in you at ALL?

And oh, btw, what makes you think his post has ANYthing at all to do with you? How can YOU set yourself up as forum police when you personally have hijacked MANY more threads than moonbus?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Sorry, my post here that I have chosen to delete was driven by me (and possibly RJH) mixing up responses from you and moonbus.
I don't see you have any need to be sorry for any post to FMF. He comes in on the tail end of a thread without reading and comprehending all the posts and starts his subtle infiltration by misrepresentation and continues his attack by making an ass out of himself.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
You got a special place in my heart. When we were in the hospital for
our daughter, there was a baby in the next room that was crack baby. He
was the in the worse shape in the hospital at that time of the kids there till
we got there. It broke my heart when we were in there with Ramie for him,
my wife stayed with Ramie every day for 3 months, I came on ...[text shortened]... hat was good. Never knew what happen to him after we
left, I think about him from time to time.
From our experience that kid would have needed constant special education and maybe physical therapy too, one of our twins also had CP. We spend many a day stretching out his legs which were trying to atrophy. We got him over the worse of it but he still has occasional problems with muscle cramps in his legs.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
From our experience that kid would have needed constant special education and maybe physical therapy too, one of our twins also had CP. We spend many a day stretching out his legs which were trying to atrophy. We got him over the worse of it but he still has occasional problems with muscle cramps in his legs.
Like I said, you and moon are exceptional in what you two did with your
families, I'm a fan!

We were never told what his conditions were they would have been wrong
to tell us. The thing that broke my heart with him was here was an infant
and he was alone, those that should have cared for him had other priorities
mainly drugs. I suppose guilt could have been eating at them too.

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Vivify,
Someone needs to prove that Yahweh does not exist. Otherwise, there is no real meaning to your questions. Start from a truth if you want answers.