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    Prays to God for,lets say,courage....do you think God gives that person courage or the opportunity to be courageous....just a thought 🙂
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    16 Aug '07 16:50
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Prays to God for,lets say,courage....do you think God gives that person courage or the opportunity to be courageous....just a thought 🙂
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    Originally posted by knightmeister
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    I disagree.... we are already what we are...God has already given us this life.... i believe he gives us and grants us opportunities to be what we ask for !!!
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    16 Aug '07 16:55
    If someone prays to god for courage. He will be rewarded with a lovely pint of best beer!
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    16 Aug '07 17:06
    Originally posted by invigorate
    If someone prays to god for courage. He will be rewarded with a lovely pint of best beer!
    LOL...
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    16 Aug '07 17:31
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    I disagree.... we are already what we are...God has already given us this life.... i believe he gives us and grants us opportunities to be what we ask for !!!
    If one prays to God for strength through difficult times, is he/she rewarded with more strife and more difficult times as an opportunity to become stronger?
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    16 Aug '07 17:33
    Originally posted by darvlay
    If one prays to God for strength through difficult times, is he/she rewarded with more strife and more difficult times as an opportunity to become stronger?
    Similarily, if one prays to god for patience with their annoying children, are they rewarded with more tantrums and bratty behaviour?
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    16 Aug '07 23:00
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    I disagree.... we are already what we are...God has already given us this life.... i believe he gives us and grants us opportunities to be what we ask for !!!
    I think I would agree with you on this.
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    16 Aug '07 23:01
    Originally posted by invigorate
    If someone prays to god for courage. He will be rewarded with a lovely pint of best beer!
    I like that too!
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    17 Aug '07 00:32
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Prays to God for,lets say,courage....do you think God gives that person courage or the opportunity to be courageous....just a thought 🙂
    God does not answer every prayer, eg 2 million people praying to win the lotto.
    Neither are we in a position to say whether or not He does answer ours.
    It may be sheer co-incidence that your prayer appears to be 'answered'.
    It may be a request that is self-fulfilling
    Or a request that will be answered over time whether or not we pray for it . eg 'God please help me to get over this terrible flu. or Send some rain to water the crops.

    How would you therefore know that God heard your prayers and either gave you the courage or the opportunity to be courageous?
    How can you be sure that those events occured because you prayed.
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    17 Aug '07 00:46
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Prays to God for,lets say,courage....do you think God gives that person courage or the opportunity to be courageous....just a thought 🙂
    Of course not. God doesn't hear our puny utterances. There is no God to listen.
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    17 Aug '07 07:44
    Originally posted by Stregone
    Of course not. God doesn't hear our puny utterances. There is no God to listen.
    Well..... i beg to differ....
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    17 Aug '07 07:45
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    God does not answer every prayer, eg 2 million people praying to win the lotto.
    Neither are we in a position to say whether or not He does answer ours.
    It may be sheer co-incidence that your prayer appears to be 'answered'.
    It may be a request that is self-fulfilling
    Or a request that will be answered over time whether or not we pray for it . eg 'God ple ...[text shortened]... ortunity to be courageous?
    How can you be sure that those events occured because you prayed.
    Because your heart and mind are open to it therefore making it easier for God to reply and we are in an easier state of mind to listen!
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    17 Aug '07 07:46
    Originally posted by josephw
    I think I would agree with you on this.
    Thank you!
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    17 Aug '07 07:46
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Similarily, if one prays to god for patience with their annoying children, are they rewarded with more tantrums and bratty behaviour?
    No they are rewarded with an opportunity to calm and love the children!!!
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