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Originally posted by divegeesterNow look what you started!😉
Goodness me, we are in agreement again!
Originally posted by KellyJaySo what you are saying is that salvation is a gift with strings attached?
Well he has paid for them all, but I still agree with you that we need to
follow after and forsake our sins. Jesus pain the debt in full, but that just
opens the curtain for us to walk with God, rejecting Him after that leads
to other things.
Kelly
Originally posted by checkbaiterNow you getting it :
So what you are saying is that salvation is a gift with strings attached?
That's what it sounds like from you and Rajk999.
For God so loved the world that he gave...if?
Originally posted by checkbaiterCan I ask you what this "AWM Ministries" is? Is it this? http://www.awmi.net/
Here is the devotional I received today...
HOW TO EXPERIENCE ETERNAL LIFE TODAY
John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
JOHN 17:3
In order to fully understand what eternal life is, it is helpful to understand what it is not. Eternal life is not living forever. Everyon ...[text shortened]... first part about hell, I am posting this because I agree with the rest. Eternal life begins now.
Originally posted by Rajk999You say "we've gone through verses already" as though you have somehow proved your point; you haven't by a long way. In fact your post only goes to show that even more! You admit you have sinned sinned and by your own definition are "of the devil" (your previous post to me). So when do you become "of god" again? If if god decides to "not forgive" as you put it here, at what point does that happen, and why did he forgive you when you sinned and became of the devil last time but decides not to forgive you next time, and is that position of his forever?
Yes it does. All sin is of the devil. All righteousness is of God. But the important thing is to repent with a contrite heart and God forgives. If however I continue to sin there comes a point when God may not forgive. We have gone through those verses already.
The aim of the Christian is after accepting Christ is to follow in the footsteps of Jesus. Ther ...[text shortened]... hat you cannot lose your salvation and that Christ has paid for my sins past present and future.
Originally posted by checkbaiterEternal life begins now for all the Christians in the world today?
.. Eternal life begins now.
Originally posted by divegeesterI deal only with what is written in the Bible. I dont not read the false interpretations of fallible men. My guide is the writings/teachings of Jesus Christ and the Apostles.
You say "we've gone through verses already" as though you have somehow proved your point; you haven't by a long way. In fact your post only goes to show that even more! You admit you have sinned sinned and by your own definition are "of the devil" (your previous post to me). So when do you become "of god" again? If if god decides to "not forgive" as you ...[text shortened]... e devil last time but decides not to forgive you next time, and is that position of his forever?
Originally posted by checkbaiterI am saying that simply believing in God is not enough, Satan believes it
So what you are saying is that salvation is a gift with strings attached?
That's what it sounds like from you and Rajk999.
For God so loved the world that he gave...if?
Originally posted by KellyJayI guess I am not getting my point across...I am going to provide a link to a free audio teaching to listen to at your leisure, if you choose to listen at all.
I am saying that simply believing in God is not enough, Satan believes it
does him no good. Jesus separates those that only mouth following him
and those that do, Paul warns over and over that we are not to get caught
up into sin and be over come by it. The end all be all is not so make a claim
that we now believe in Jesus, but once we do that we start ...[text shortened]... ly a matter of truth, when
we come to God we are forgiven, when we pretend, not so much.
Kelly