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Originally posted by Great King Rat
What other thing(s) do we need?

Bump for sonship.

Originally posted by FMF
You are the first Christian I have ever encountered who has contended that, to be a Christian, one needs "great intelligence". But to be fair, having repeated the claim after being asked about it, you seem to have simply blurted out a bit of inarticulate nonsense. Surely you are going to walk this one back a bit and retract your claim about the need for "great intelligence".

Christ said that in order to enter the kingdom one must first embrace him with child like faith.

This is nothing new FMF.

Originally posted by Great King Rat
Bump for sonship.

What other thing(s) do we need?

Seven other things are needed -

Christ, Christ, Christ.
And then ---- Christ.

At this point one definitely then needs ---- CHRIST.
In addition to this - Christ is needed.

Last but by no means least one definitely should have Jesus Christ !

Originally posted by sonship

What other thing(s) do we need?

Seven other things are needed -

Christ, Christ, Christ.
And then ---- Christ.

At this point one definitely then needs ---- [b]CHRIST.
In addition to this - Christ is needed.

Last but by no means least one definitely should have Jesus Christ ![/b]

I'm reassured sir to see Christians can count.

Originally posted by sonship

What other thing(s) do we need?

Seven other things are needed -

Christ, Christ, Christ.
And then ---- Christ.

At this point one definitely then needs ---- [b]CHRIST.
In addition to this - Christ is needed.

Last but by no means least one definitely should have Jesus Christ ![/b]

You addressed this post to atheists, right? While I'm sure there are atheists who believe that there was a real life person at one time who the character of JC was based on, none of them believe he was the son of god, let alone god himself.

How are you going to tackle this problem?

Originally posted by whodey
Christ said that in order to enter the kingdom one must first embrace him with child like faith.

sonship has said in order to enter the kingdom one must have "great intelligence" and other things besides. In fact, I think he might have misstated what he believes about the need for "great intelligence" but he is too vain to admit it and clarify. He talked about "Satan" and "The Devil" instead.

Vain FMF ?

You're the one who seems be wanting everyone to see how cleverly you can misrepresent people's words.

I don't try to lay traps for people.
You know that I have never announced that "great intelligence" is a requirement to receive Christ. Nor is lesser intelligence a requirement to contact Christ.

Yes, I mentioned Satan's exploitation of God's words.
And what did you do? Looks like you went off to start a new thread on, probably, the worst things preachers have or can do - the proselytizing card played up.

You munipulated my sentence with a facade of objectivity.

Originally posted by Great King Rat
You addressed this post to atheists, right? While I'm sure there are atheists who believe that there was a real life person at one time who the character of JC was based on, none of them believe he was the son of god, let alone god himself.

How are you going to tackle this problem?

Bump for sonship.

Originally posted by sonship
Vain FMF ?

You're the one who seems be wanting everyone to see how cleverly you can misrepresent people's words.

I don't try to lay traps for people.
You know that I have never announced that "great intelligence" is a requirement to receive Christ. Nor is lesser intelligence a requirement to contact Christ.

Yes, I mentioned Satan's exploitat ...[text shortened]... e proselytizing card played up.

You munipulated my sentence with a facade of objectivity.

Are you admitting that you misstated what you actually meant (and then repeated it) or is your vanity preventing you from doing so? You are framing your inarticulate error and your clumsy pride as an attack on you. Three posters commented on it and you're STILL playing the victim card.

Originally posted by sonship
Looks like you went off to start a new thread on, probably, the worst things preachers have or can do - the proselytizing card

I notice you haven't had the courage to address the moral ramifications of your torture-is-"perfect-morality" ideology on that other thread.

Originally posted by Great King Rat
Bump for sonship.

You addressed this post to atheists, right?
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Not necessarily at all did I address it to atheists.

While I'm sure there are atheists who believe that there was a real life person at one time who the character of JC was based on, none of them believe he was the son of god, let alone god himself.
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That's right.
In the final analysis what you believe will be most important.

If you read through Luke and John for example, bravely, can you imagine how and why someone/s would come up with such a fictional character as Jesus ?

Originally posted by divegeester
Why is "sheer Cerebral ability" required at all?

Bump for sonship.

Originally posted by sonship
I think that you look at sentences and contemplate how you can exploit them to insert into the mouth of people what you want them to say and emphasize.

This is like the serpent questioning if God really told Adam and Eve that they could not eat from any tree in the garden.

This was a subtle exploitation of these words -

[quote] [b] " ... ...[text shortened]... gs and contentions of words". You didn't like it then. Why provoke me to have to repeat it?[/b]

He's just asking you a question about what you wrote. I'm asking you virtually the same question and you ignored it.

Why does asking you a question equate to the serpent questioning Adam in the garden? I mean do you really think you are that important? Why is FMF like satan? He's just asking you a question about your statement! Why is he diseased? Just listen to yourself.

You and the JWs come right out of the same box - pompous, self righteous religionists who believe they hold all the truth and should not be questioned.

Read your post again as if it it was written by Galveston75 or Robbie Carrobie. No difference.

Originally posted by sonship
They ain't all stupid by far.
See? A theist says so.

Can you be intellectually brilliant and wrong ?

Even Grandmasters have said I didn't see that.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Even Grandmasters have said I didn't see that.

I can't see it all, and what I do see I usually see too late. 😉