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    08 May '11 09:121 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You really don't grasp God's grace and mercy, pity. You cannot earn God's
    favor, you cannot keep it by working for it, it is a gift to us. Accepting God's
    grace and mercy that was given to us by Jesus Christ, it did away with that
    which separates us from God, from there we live with Him, He teaches us,
    He leads us, He makes new creatures in Christ. In H ese shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
    Actually Kelly of all the Christians here I find you the most intelligent and reasonable, with the exception of Suzzianne.

    Yes everlasting life is a gift that we cannot earn, we have established that. However
    it must not be used as an excuse for simply doing nothing. I am saved already,
    therefore i dont need to do anything? I have been a recipient of Gods grace and
    mercy therefore i dont need to do anything? Jesus in me, i dont need to do
    anything? That KellyJay is a piece of nonsense.

    Time and again we read in scripture of the need of action on behalf of the believer.

    (Matthew 7:21) . . .“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the
    kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the
    heavens will. . .

    (2 Peter 3:11) . . .Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of
    persons ought you to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly
    devotion. . .


    (James 2:14) . . .Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith
    but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it?

    (James 1:22-25) . . .However, become doers of the word, and not hearers
    only,
    deceiving yourselves with false reasoning.  For if anyone is a hearer of the
    word, and not a doer, this one is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror.
     For he looks at himself, and off he goes and immediately forgets what sort of man
    he is.  But he who peers into the perfect law that belongs to freedom and who
    persists in it, this [man], because he has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a
    doer of the work
    , will be happy in his doing it.

    Faith is one thing, grace and mercy another, but it can never be utilised as an
    excuse for inactivity, this is what has transpired among the churches of
    Christendom, they have evolved into a clergy laity distinction and the vast majority
    are simply inflatable Christians, content simply to hear the word.
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    08 May '11 09:14
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Actually Kelly of all the Christians here I find you the most intelligent and reasonable, with the exception of Suzzianne.

    Yes everlasting life is a gift that we cannot earn, we have established that. However
    it must not be used as an excuse for simply doing nothing. I am saved already,
    therefore i dont need to do anything? I have been a re ...[text shortened]... ction and the vast majority
    are simply inflatable Christians, content simply to hear the word.
    Robbie will be Catholic yet.
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    08 May '11 09:261 edit
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Robbie will be Catholic yet.
    Lol, shhhh between you and I and because of my father, i still harbour some catholic
    tendencies. My two nieces, Bernadette and Ailish will take first communion soon, this
    year i think, they have been staying the weekend and pelted me with cushions when i
    was asleep. I dare not speak to them about Jehovah for fear of my sister, but they
    are her kids and she must bring them up the way she sees fit. Pity they would make
    awesome Witnesses.
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    08 May '11 09:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    You sound like a JW robbie.

    Nice clean starched shirt with a tie lookin' all good as God.
    you bet, Yves Saint Laurent single breasted suit, cotton shirt, silk tie, dont you know
    every girl crazy about a sharp dressed man? get with it you guys, you think chicks
    want to see you in church wid you're jeans and some old hoody and your sneakers?
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    08 May '11 09:351 edit
    Originally posted by menace71
    JW's just like Clones JW's with Minds NOT there own!! Bow down to the Watch Tower we must!! NOT in God we trust!!! 😉 Suit and tie as we knock on your door and off to the Kingdom Hall we adore!!! Awakes we pass out that tell of the end and Great earth quakes!!! False prophecy we spew and your next were coming after YOU !!! Ha Ha ha LOL



    hey Just my take
    Manny
    I never go to door with magazine, i always go bible in hand, it sorts out the men from
    the boys. So were sharp dressed, the number of comments I get about my kid from
    ladies is awesome, they love to see the young kids dressed up in suits and pretty
    dresses, reminds them of a bygone age i reckon, when people had like a Sunday
    best. You blowup inflatable Christians, going to church with your jeans and hoody,
    sneakers, you need to get with it man! every chick crazy about a sharp dressed man,
    dont you know anything!
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    08 May '11 13:53
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Actually Kelly of all the Christians here I find you the most intelligent and reasonable, with the exception of Suzzianne.

    Yes everlasting life is a gift that we cannot earn, we have established that. However
    it must not be used as an excuse for simply doing nothing. I am saved already,
    therefore i dont need to do anything? I have been a re ...[text shortened]... ction and the vast majority
    are simply inflatable Christians, content simply to hear the word.
    You again are mixing my message; I've never said you would not be doing
    good works even my example pointed to people doing good works. We were
    created to do good works that is a natural part of life, it is what we were
    designed for to love God and love man. My point to you is you cannot earn
    God's favor, it isn't a gift if you have to earn it, that would turn it into a
    payment for services rendered. We need to enter into God's rest when it
    comes to our salvation, and from there love the Lord and each other, we will be
    doing good works, no one loves anyone without caring for what is good for
    them.

    A heart right with God obeys His commandments, if they fail they will repent
    and go again, because God is faithful.

    The gift of God, is that just that, a gift.

    Thank you for your kind words.
    Kelly
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    08 May '11 15:251 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You again are mixing my message; I've never said you would not be doing
    good works even my example pointed to people doing good works. We were
    created to do good works that is a natural part of life, it is what we were
    designed for to love God and love man. My point to you is you cannot earn
    God's favor, it isn't a gift if you have to earn it, that woul ful.

    The gift of God, is that just that, a gift.

    Thank you for your kind words.
    Kelly
    sure thing, id i not also agree that it cannot be earned, that it is a gift, have i ever
    stated that it can be earned? However , let me ask you this? do you think it possible
    to make God look upon us favourably? not the he is of course partial. what about
    making a good name with God, do you think that is possible?

    No worries, kindness is just that, reciprocal 🙂
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    08 May '11 15:40
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    sure thing, id i not also agree that it cannot be earned, that it is a gift, have i ever
    stated that it can be earned? However , let me ask you this? do you think it possible
    to make God look upon us favourably? not the he is of course partial. what about
    making a good name with God, do you think that is possible?

    No worries, kindness is just that, reciprocal 🙂
    God teaches us what love is, while we were yet sinners Jesus died for us. The
    very best thing about Christianity is God! I think it dangerous for people to
    make claims about how good they are by the things they do, I'm not good,
    because I do good things, my righteousness rest in God alone! I cannot earn
    God's favor, again that is working for what God has already given me, if I
    attempt to earn it than I'm saying God's gift isn't enough! We learn to love
    God and man the closer we are to God, our ways are not His, if I were to go
    just on how I want to do things than anytime someone's needs came before
    me I'd come up with are they worthy of my support? God took us at our worst!

    I can see my own short comings as you guys see a little of them coming
    through with what I write, I know what a sinner I am; if I were to go by what
    I know I'd give up on me. My hope, my salvation rests in Jesus who is faithful.
    God does not have favorites!
    Kelly
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    08 May '11 15:59
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    God teaches us what love is, while we were yet sinners Jesus died for us. The
    very best thing about Christianity is God! I think it dangerous for people to
    make claims about how good they are by the things they do, I'm not good,
    because I do good things, my righteousness rest in God alone! I cannot earn
    God's favor, again that is working for what God ha ...[text shortened]... hope, my salvation rests in Jesus who is faithful.
    God does not have favorites!
    Kelly
    C'mon KellyJay try to answer the questions!
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    08 May '11 16:20
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    C'mon KellyJay try to answer the questions!
    I did answer, God has no favorites among us. He made a way for all of us to
    come to Him or not. Maybe I didn't get what you were asking!
    Kelly
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    08 May '11 16:33
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I did answer, God has no favorites among us. He made a way for all of us to
    come to Him or not. Maybe I didn't get what you were asking!
    Kelly
    ok, i shall ask again,

    do you think that it is possible to please God.

    do you think it is possible to make a good name with God.
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    08 May '11 17:04
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I never go to door with magazine, i always go bible in hand, it sorts out the men from
    the boys. So were sharp dressed, the number of comments I get about my kid from
    ladies is awesome, they love to see the young kids dressed up in suits and pretty
    dresses, reminds them of a bygone age i reckon, when people had like a Sunday
    best. You blowu ...[text shortened]... need to get with it man! every chick crazy about a sharp dressed man,
    dont you know anything!
    True kids do look sharp dressed up. I could see my 3 year old all dressed up 🙂





    Manny
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    08 May '11 20:131 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Actually Kelly of all the Christians here I find you the most intelligent and reasonable, with the exception of Suzzianne.
    Should I be flattered at this, or insulted? Not sure if serious...





    And it is Suzianne, btw, one Z, please.



    PS. Also, it is Faith which makes works manifest. If you have no works, it is your Faith that is lacking.
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    08 May '11 21:48
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Should I be flattered at this, or insulted? Not sure if serious...





    And it is Suzianne, btw, one Z, please.



    PS. Also, it is Faith which makes works manifest. If you have no works, it is your Faith that is lacking.
    🙂 I felt flattered he put me in your company.
    Kelly
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    08 May '11 21:49
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    ok, i shall ask again,

    do you think that it is possible to please God.

    do you think it is possible to make a good name with God.
    Yes we can please God, not at all sure what you are driving at with making
    a good name with God. I'm not trying to be dense here I honestly don't know
    what you are saying!
    Kelly
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