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    Can free will be influenced? ....
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    05 Jul '07 09:39
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Can free will be influenced? ....
    Do you watch TV; do you shut it off when the commercials come on?
    The whole point of free will is the ability to act in the face of influence
    for or against that which is pushing or pulling on us?
    Kelly
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    05 Jul '07 09:47
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Do you watch TV; do you shut it off when the commercials come on?
    The whole point of free will is the ability to act in the face of influence
    for or against that which is pushing or pulling on us?
    Kelly
    But is it influenced?
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    05 Jul '07 09:501 edit
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    But is it influenced?
    If I say to you, come here I'll give you money, that is influence
    is it not? The point of free will is that we are not trash floating down
    stream where we have to go where the water is flowing, nor are we
    puppets with someone pulling our strings MAKING us do what they
    want instead of what we want.
    Kelly
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    05 Jul '07 12:05
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    If I say to you, come here I'll give you money, that is influence
    is it not? The point of free will is that we are not trash floating down
    stream where we have to go where the water is flowing, nor are we
    puppets with someone pulling our strings MAKING us do what they
    want instead of what we want.
    Kelly
    Yessss....but..... does God and Satan try to influence us...its like that cartoon with a demon on one side of you and an angel on the other!
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    05 Jul '07 16:30
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Yessss....but..... does God and Satan try to influence us...its like that cartoon with a demon on one side of you and an angel on the other!
    Both do, God tells us this is the way walk in it, and the devil says
    hey look at this, it ... whatever line he is pushing that feeds some
    lust within in us, something to make us float down stream. The
    OT and the NT both refer to a spiritual battle going on around us,
    I imagine that it could be looked at like that, but I'd be willing to bet
    there is a little more to it.
    Kelly
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    05 Jul '07 17:11
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Yessss....but..... does God and Satan try to influence us...its like that cartoon with a demon on one side of you and an angel on the other!
    Its a two way street ya know. They influence us and we influence them.
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    05 Jul '07 18:53
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Can free will be influenced? ....
    What free will? πŸ™‚
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    06 Jul '07 07:49
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Both do, God tells us this is the way walk in it, and the devil says
    hey look at this, it ... whatever line he is pushing that feeds some
    lust within in us, something to make us float down stream. The
    OT and the NT both refer to a spiritual battle going on around us,
    I imagine that it could be looked at like that, but I'd be willing to bet
    there is a little more to it.
    Kelly
    Thank you that was a pleasure to read!!!
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    06 Jul '07 07:50
    Originally posted by whodey
    Its a two way street ya know. They influence us and we influence them.
    Who do we influence?
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    06 Jul '07 07:51
    Originally posted by Coletti
    What free will? πŸ™‚
    You know.... Will.....he's a nice bloke and deserves to be freed!!!
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    yesπŸ™
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    07 Jul '07 02:25
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Who do we influence?
    Who do we influence? We influence God to work in our lives when we choose to walk by faith in him. We influence the devil to operate in our lives when we choose otherwise.
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    i think the devil is winning me πŸ˜•
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    09 Jul '07 08:10
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    i think the devil is winning me πŸ˜•
    "get thee behind me Satan!!!"
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