Originally posted by scacchipazzo
The gentleman addducing that somehow what you said detracts from Orthodox Christians of classic Hellenic influnece is another common slur against Latin Christians.
Get ready for the venom about to be spewed in your direction. I agree with you entirely, but thee will be the usual suspects attacking you and trying to make you retract what you have said or acccept their dim views of history and the world. Take for example the foolish posting on what other things might have been invented were Christianity not around t ...[text shortened]... cient classic manuscripts in the monasteries and weren't the ones who enabled the rennaissance.
How so? The early Christians were primarily Greek (and it is a misnomer to identify them as Orthodox. The Great Schism does not occur until some hundreds of year later.) Latin theology however does not emerge itself until the forth century (with the likes of St Augustine, St Jerome, St Ambrose and St Gregory the Great). This is not a slur; this is the truth.
And I am not detracting from the contribution of Christianity to western society. But Freaky has quite exaggerated the importance of Christianity in claiming that only it is responsible for 'every seminal accomplishment man has achieved'. It is quite well known that St. Augustine relied heavily on Ciceronian theories of natural law; that St. Thomas Aquinas relied heavily on Aristotle for his theory on essence and accident in order to explain the divine presence of the Eucharist.
As if what you posted denied Christians taking what was of value form others who preceded them or as if Christians were not who protected the ancient classic manuscripts in the monasteries and weren't the ones who enabled the rennaissance.
There is a lot to be disputed about that. While it is true that monasteries did preserve classical manuscripts, since St Augustine and St Jerome themselves encouraged Christians to do this to encourage an understanding of rhetoric, monasteries were not very good preservers. Most manuscripts of plays of Plautus are damaged and incomplete because monks tended to erase the bits they considered offensive. Modern textual editors must try to reconstruct the plays from fragments.
The point is irrelevant anyway. Whether the Christianity helped preserved classical literature, it is still not the case that Christianity is the fountainhead of all seminal accomplishments of man. The great orators and philosophers of the western canon largely came before