Irish Blasphemy Laws

Originally posted by duecer
Liar!😠

He's Irish, and still lives at home with his mum

Since when is Jesus an Irish name?

He's clearly Mexican.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Since when is Jesus an Irish name?

He's clearly Mexican.

Morality should be protected, and immorality punished.

No we should have a creationist (Christian) lobby.

Jesus is Jewish.

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You have to have some rules to follow that are moral, even if you don't Believe in God, (for you to be moral of course).

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Since when is Jesus an Irish name?

He's clearly Mexican.

His name sounds Peurto Riccan

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I suspect that almost all religious people would find that they fall foul of that law with respect to some other religion. After all the claim "I am right and you are wrong" is "grossly insulting" is it not, and "causing outrage" amongst adherents is relatively easy.

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…and
(b) he or she intends, by the publication or utterance of the
matter concerned, to cause such outrage.

Could you INTEND to cause outrage by discussion evolution?

….(my emphasis)

Possibly, yes. But I don’t see the word “INTEND” in (b). What if it causes “outrage” regardless of intent?

…3) It shall be a defence to proceedings for an offence under this
section for the defendant to prove that a reasonable person would
find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value
in the matter to which the offence relates.

Courts in Ireland aren't at the stage where a Judge wouldn't recognise a discussion on evolution as having genuine scientific value. We're also lucky in not having a vocal Creationist lobby
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Fair enough 🙂

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Only One God. Yeah so they don't like the Bible because it doesn't fit with their religions. The Bible doesn't cause outage (even though some people may think that). You see they throw out morality by throwing out the Bible then make laws that probably aren't very moral to replace the old ones, see how it goes downhill?

Originally posted by daniel58
Only One God. Yeah so they don't like the Bible because it doesn't fit with their religions. The Bible doesn't cause outage (even though some people may think that). You see they throw out morality by throwing out the Bible then make laws that probably aren't very moral to replace the old ones, see how it goes downhill?

…The Bible doesn't cause outage
….

How would you know that no pagan would be ‘outage’ by the Bible?
I assume that a few Christians (the more extreme kind) may be ‘outage’ by paganism so why can’t it happen the other way around?

…You see they throw out morality by throwing out the Bible
...

So if you don’t believe the Bible you are “immoral”? 😛
-explain the premise for this exertion.

Would you say that only the Christian religion supports “morality” and so only the Christian religion alone has a monopoly over “morality”?

What non-arbitrary criteria do you use to determine what is “moral” and what is “immoral”?

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
[b]…The Bible doesn't cause outage
….

How would you know that no pagan would be ‘outage’ by the Bible?
I assume that a few Christians (the more extreme kind) may be ‘outage’ by paganism so why can’t it happen the other way around?

…You see they throw out morality by throwing out the Bible
...

So if you don’t believe the Bible ...[text shortened]... ?

What non-arbitrary criteria do you use to determine what is “moral” and what is “immoral”?[/b]

It doesn't cause outrage to Christians.

No but it's better, the Bible, Ten Commandments.

Originally posted by daniel58
It doesn't cause outrage to Christians.

No but it's better, the Bible, Ten Commandments.

…No but it's better,
….

In what way?

…the Bible, Ten Commandments.
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Is that your answer to my last question?

( i.e. “…What non-arbitrary criteria do you use to determine what is “moral” and what is “immoral”?&hellip😉

If so, in what way is the Bible and the Ten Commandments non-arbitrary?
And before you answer “they are the words of God”; exactly what non-arbitrary criteria did this “God” use to determine the words of the Bible and the Ten Commandments? -I mean, what non-arbitrary criteria did this “God” use to determine the difference between “morally right” and “morally wrong”?

Point: there cannot be any such non-arbitrary criteria.
So “morality” cannot be rationally based on the Bible nor anything else because “morality” simply cannot be rationally based on anything.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
[b]…No but it's better,
….

In what way?

…the Bible, Ten Commandments.
...

Is that your answer to my last question?

( i.e. “…What non-arbitrary criteria do you use to determine what is “moral” and what is “immoral”?&hellip😉

If so, in what way is the Bible and the Ten Commandments non-arbitrary?
And before you answer “they are t ...[text shortened]... n the Bible nor anything else because “morality” simply cannot be rationally based on anything.[/b]

In the fact that;

1. It supports morality, more so, the Belief in ONE GOD.

2. Morally right and wrong already existed, Lucifer was the first to sin, anything against God is sin, therefore Christianity is better than paganism.