Is capital punishment morally wrong?

@kellyjay said
I agree when we apply anything other than righteousness we slant justice towards our preferences.

This is what God is saying in this scripture; and that, He is not going to judge us un-righteously in this way.
Much different than how you portrayed it in your pervious post. At least that's the way I took it. Apologies if I'm wrong.

@kellyjay said
God doesn’t judge us with what His eyes see, or His ears hear, instead by righteousness! Color coding by us for any judgments would not be by righteousness but through our prejudice.

It's as if you either [1] just don't understand the question or [2] it is an inconvenient question, so you just pretend to answer it.

@kellyjay said
Well, when people make up truth as they go and call it Christianity, that is not
blessed by God, so that type of reality is dying; the God of life is not in that,
only the imaginations of people.

Well, when people make up truth as they go and call it Christianity,
You really need to look in a mirror with your post here; you just described much of what you do here in this forum, with this post.

@kingdavid403 said
Well, when people make up truth as they go and call it Christianity,
You really need to look in a mirror with your post here; you just described much of what you do here in this forum, with this post.

Well, by all means show me my errors with truth. Correct me I will be better off. Just be specific instead making vague claims.

@kellyjay said
Well, by all means show me my errors with truth. Correct me I will be better off. Just be specific instead making vague claims.

1. Abortion somehow being anti-God. Nothing in the Bible and you made it all up as you went along. You use scriptures that have absolutely nothing to do with abortion and somehow think that you're going to con someone that they are. Same as many other phony lying supposed Christians. I've already pointed much of this out to you.
"a dead lifeless glob of cells"
Here you agree that it's a dead lifeless glob of cells.
2. You claim to be pro-life but your pro-death penalty. Same as many other pro-life supposed Christians who claim to be closer to God than most others. Talk about lying hypocrites.
3. you lie and bear false witness against anyone you disagree with all the time using God's Name and Holy Word to do so. I've pointed this out to you several times and you don't care, and then, you disappear until your next fling of BS. Do I really need to point this out to you? If so, just go back and read everything you've posted to me and you'll find it; if you're truthful and honest with yourself. This is difficult for most supposed Christians with your false worthless ego.
4. Every time someone questions you, you run and hide like a little girl, then come out of hiding to make another lie, and then you go hide again like an eight year-old. True Christians don't do that.
instead making vague claims.
I have not made any vague claims. I've made them extra clear to you. You're lying again.
Now, shall I proceed with scriptures? Or, is this enough for you for now?

[Matthew 15:7-9 NKJV] 7 "Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with [their] lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching [as] doctrines the commandments of men.' "

@kingdavid403 said
1. Abortion somehow being anti-God. Nothing in the Bible and you made it all up as you went along. You use scriptures that have absolutely nothing to do with abortion and somehow think that you're going to con someone that they are. Same as many other phony lying supposed Christians. I've already pointed much of this out to you.
2. You claim to be pro-life but yo ...[text shortened]... r from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching [as] doctrines the commandments of men.' "

My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
then the death penalty, one is an innocent life whose only crime is being, the other
has gone through due process and by law is convicted of a crime they choose to do
that reached the level of death concerning what is called for; they are not the
same thing.

The anti-life of that stance that supports abortion is that it goes against the nature
of God, who is the author of our lives and who forms us in our mother's wombs
taking that life is taking a life not created by us, but the choice for the death of
that life is being made by someone other than the one who is going to be killed.
Unlike someone who did a crime, who put themselves in the place where they
stand convicted. You have made declarations on what you think; you've not shown
the validity of your stance through logic or scripture.

I've not born a false witness against anyone; please quote me. You point out that
what you think is true by declaring it so is not evidence or proof; it is only telling
everyone what you think as you make your assertions. If you have noticed, I'm still
here. I have not disappeared. I may not be here as much as you and others, but I've
not walked off.

I've given you scripture showing God is involved in our formation within our
mother's wombs that when women conceive that too is from God. And with
logic and scripture I've pointed out that the start of all the processes of life begins
when the pieces all come together and the processes start the start of all human
life, and you ignored it all and just make assertions, and needless derogatory
insults.

@kellyjay said
My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
then the death penalty, one is an innocent life whose only crime is being, the other
has gone through due process and by law is convicted of a crime they choose to do
that reached the level of death concerning what is called for; they are not the
same thing.

The anti-life of that st ...[text shortened]... all human
life, and you ignored it all and just make assertions, and needless derogatory
insults.

My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
There is nothing different at all. A life is a life; and the unborn are not alive until they are fully formed and close to birth. So, it is only you who chooses death over life.
one is an innocent life whose only crime is being,
It's not a life, no being.
The anti-life of that stance that supports abortion is that it goes against the nature of God, who is the author of our lives and who forms us in our mother's wombs
It does not go against the nature of God; hence, God killing King David's baby, from King David's rape of another mans wife. Furthermore, no one is killed from an abortion.
God, who is the author of our lives and who forms us in our mother's wombs
God formed King David in His mother's womb, and other Bible greats. We are not all formed in our mothers womb personally by God. If we were, there would be no miscarriages, stillbirths, or birth defects etc.
taking that life is taking a life not created by us
It's not a life since it has not been born yet.
one who is going to be killed.
No one is killed.
I've given you scripture showing God is involved in our formation within our mother's wombs
No you have not. You gave a scripture that showed God was involved in forming King David in his mother's womb.
when women conceive that too is from God. And with
Not true at all. It was put in place by God for women to conceive and bear children; however rape, incest, etc is not from God. DUH!...
I've pointed out that the start of all the processes of life begins
when the pieces all come together and the processes start the start of all human
life,
You haven't pointed anything out; and yes, life begins when ALL the pieces come together and then there is a BIRTH.
and just make assertions, and needless derogatory
insults.
Why yes you do; and, you twist God's Holy Name and Word to do it.

@kingdavid403 said
A life is a life; and the unborn are not alive until they are fully formed and close to birth.

Are you really claiming that a foetus is not viable outside the womb until "close to birth"? If so, are you suggesting that experts ~ who say a foetus can live outside the womb at around 23 or 24 weeks of age ~ are wrong?

-Removed-

When KellyJay says [which he does very, very, very often]: "Opinions can be checked against reality if they hold up", he means he has "checked" his opinions against what is, in his opinion, "reality" and he has found that, in his opinion, they "hold up".

For KellyJay, this is called "objectivity" and fends off - at least in his mind - all attempts to refer to his opinions as "opinions".

@kingdavid403 said
My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
There is nothing different at all. A life is a life; and the unborn are not alive until they are fully formed and close to birth. So, it is only you who chooses death over life.
one is an innocent life whose only crime is being,
It's not a life, no being.
The ...[text shortened]... needless derogatory
insults.
Why yes you do; and, you twist God's Holy Name and Word to do it.

"My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
There is nothing different at all. A life is a life; and the unborn are not alive until they are fully formed and close to birth. So, it is only you who chooses death over life."

Where do you go to acquire that knowledge? What is the source for this statement?
God speaks about different lives while they were in the womb? When they look
at the health of a pregnant woman and her baby, they check for hearts that
beat as they monitor the baby's health. God forbid, but it does happen that they
do die by natural causes in the womb for various reasons; there is a difference
between a living baby there and a dead one; how is it you deny that?

Please show me where it says it is when they are close to birth; they are alive from
any source you have, medical or Biblical. If all you are doing is claiming with only
you sharing what you think without cause, you cannot back it up with anything.

Not sure why you think when I'm pro-life as far as abortion is concerned that I'm
the one between us who is choosing death, unless you are applying my stance
on capital punishment in this, too, which is a different topic.

@kingdavid403 said
My stance on abortion is the life of the unborn, which is a completely different topic
There is nothing different at all. A life is a life; and the unborn are not alive until they are fully formed and close to birth. So, it is only you who chooses death over life.
one is an innocent life whose only crime is being,
It's not a life, no being.
The ...[text shortened]... needless derogatory
insults.
Why yes you do; and, you twist God's Holy Name and Word to do it.

one is an innocent life whose only crime is being,
It's not a life, no being.

Says you, but how do you know? Where did you go to find out this truth?