14 Oct '06 22:37>
This topic came up on the Evolution thread but has nothing to do with Evolution so I've started a new one.
A bit of the original discussion follows the end of this for context.
Basically, DJ pointed me at Ravi Zacharias for an objective explanation of why Christianity holds more value than any other religions and why it should be believed more than them. I downloaded one of his lectures (The Uniqueness of Christ, I think it was) and listened to it a couple of days ago.
In my opinion, on the basis of this lecture, Ravi was not from the same mold as the steriotypical Tellivangelist so I will retract that accusation. However, most of his arguments were anecdotes, emotional reasoning or bible interpretations. Any other established religion has plenty of all of those.
The only objective point I heard was concerning the impact of Christ. Apparantly, it was about 3 years between his starting to preach and his crucifiction and no-one can deny that 2000 years later Christianity is now one of the most widespread and popular religions (possibly even *the* most)
However, I would suggest that it is not orders of magnitude more widespread or popular than the other major religions and a posible reason for it's current dominance is simply that it was the main religion in European countries when those countries had the technologies and political drives for the last great expansionist period and the religion expanded on the back of that.
That it gained dominance in Europe in the first place is impressive but is probably more due to the preachings of the disciples than Jesus himself so his 3-year tenure is not strictly relevant.
--- Penguin
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Originally posted by Penguin
So to elaborate (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to be accused of willful misinterpreting):
DJ2Becker firmly believes that people should be more compelled to believe in his faith system (presumably one of the many forms of christianity) than any other such as Hinduism, buddhism, Islam, Judaism, Animism, Jainism, Paganism, Sikhism, Taoism, Zoroastri ...[text shortened]... Again please explain if I've misunderstood the meaning of the term.
--- Penguin
I really don't have the time right now to go into all of that.
But, I would suggest you look up 'Ravi Zacharias' and read some of his books.
Here's one for starters:
"Jesus Among Other Gods"
http://shop2.gospelcom.net/epages/rzim.storefront/4522082d00c13a34271d45579e7c0602/Product/View/SBK9
A bit of the original discussion follows the end of this for context.
Basically, DJ pointed me at Ravi Zacharias for an objective explanation of why Christianity holds more value than any other religions and why it should be believed more than them. I downloaded one of his lectures (The Uniqueness of Christ, I think it was) and listened to it a couple of days ago.
In my opinion, on the basis of this lecture, Ravi was not from the same mold as the steriotypical Tellivangelist so I will retract that accusation. However, most of his arguments were anecdotes, emotional reasoning or bible interpretations. Any other established religion has plenty of all of those.
The only objective point I heard was concerning the impact of Christ. Apparantly, it was about 3 years between his starting to preach and his crucifiction and no-one can deny that 2000 years later Christianity is now one of the most widespread and popular religions (possibly even *the* most)
However, I would suggest that it is not orders of magnitude more widespread or popular than the other major religions and a posible reason for it's current dominance is simply that it was the main religion in European countries when those countries had the technologies and political drives for the last great expansionist period and the religion expanded on the back of that.
That it gained dominance in Europe in the first place is impressive but is probably more due to the preachings of the disciples than Jesus himself so his 3-year tenure is not strictly relevant.
--- Penguin
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Originally posted by Penguin
So to elaborate (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to be accused of willful misinterpreting):
DJ2Becker firmly believes that people should be more compelled to believe in his faith system (presumably one of the many forms of christianity) than any other such as Hinduism, buddhism, Islam, Judaism, Animism, Jainism, Paganism, Sikhism, Taoism, Zoroastri ...[text shortened]... Again please explain if I've misunderstood the meaning of the term.
--- Penguin
I really don't have the time right now to go into all of that.
But, I would suggest you look up 'Ravi Zacharias' and read some of his books.
Here's one for starters:
"Jesus Among Other Gods"
http://shop2.gospelcom.net/epages/rzim.storefront/4522082d00c13a34271d45579e7c0602/Product/View/SBK9