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    @whodey said
    What would you like him to do for you?
    Answer my prayers.

    There's probably millions of others who feel the same way. 😀

    (Those who see Him as more than a rabbi)
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    @thinkofone said
    In the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry, He repeatedly calls for His followers to understand, believe, follow and ultimately abide in His word. To be clear, to abide in the words He preached during His ministry.

    In short, to be a "follower of Him" IS to abide in the words He preached during His ministry.

    [quote]John 8
    "34Jesus answered them, “Truly, tr ...[text shortened]... e vast majority of Christians is about the "god of gimme". This is what you seem to be asking about.
    Is the Jesus you believe in still dead and buried?
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    @chaney3 said
    Jesus requires a legal contract?
    😀
    You think God is a genie in a bottle to serve your every wish?
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    @kellyjay said
    You think God is a genie in a bottle to serve your every wish?
    "Ask and ye shall receive".

    Hey, I didn't say it.
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    @chaney3 said
    "Ask and ye shall receive".

    Hey, I didn't say it.
    You asking in faith, you asking to fulfill your lusts? He said a lot of things about
    prayer. What are trying to do, turn God into your personal servant, or be His son
    seeking His will?
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    @chaney3 said
    Answer my prayers.

    There's probably millions of others who feel the same way. 😀

    (Those who see Him as more than a rabbi)
    "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." -- Matthew 21:22, KJV

    Believing, that is the key, oh ye of little faith.
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    @chaney3 said
    .....supposed to help us while we're on earth?

    Or is the "Good News" strictly pertaining to the afterlife?

    He doesn't seem to be helping all that much while we're on earth.
    "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly." -- John 10:10, KJV

    This is the promise of Jesus, a "more abundant" life. But other verses also state that if you do not believe, then why should your heavenly father give you anything?

    "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." -- James 1:5-7, KJV
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    @chaney3 said
    Answer my prayers.

    There's probably millions of others who feel the same way. 😀

    (Those who see Him as more than a rabbi)
    Not even Jesus had all his prayers answered.

    “Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”

    Luke 22:42

    And no, Jesus did not want to go to the cross.

    And that is the human race. We are all on that cross together with Jesus between us. Some mock him and curse at him and say, "If you be the Son of God, get us down from here and end our suffering!", while others say, "Remember me when you enter paradise"

    It's just that simple. Which kind of thief on the cross will you be? There are only two kinds.

    And no, not all prayers go unanswered. Many of mine have come about.
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    @kellyjay said
    You think God is a genie in a bottle to serve your every wish?
    Ah yes, the "God is not a genie in a bottle" excuse.

    For someone who seems to insist that his beliefs are strictly based on a literal reading of the Bible, interesting that your post is lacking in that regard.
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    @suzianne said
    "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." -- Matthew 21:22, KJV

    Believing, that is the key, oh ye of little faith.
    Next stop: The prosperity gospel.

    Comes down to a lack of belief if the prayer isn't answered.

    For the child with terminal cancer, is it a lack of belief that is at fault?

    And for the parents, other family members, friends of the family, etc., a lack of belief on all their parts?
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    @whodey said
    Not even Jesus had all his prayers answered.

    “Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”

    Luke 22:42

    And no, Jesus did not want to go to the cross.

    And that is the human race. We are all on that cross together with Jesus between us. Some mock him and curse at him and say, "If you be the S ...[text shortened]... There are only two kinds.

    And no, not all prayers go unanswered. Many of mine have come about.
    Maybe it was a lack of belief on Jesus' part.
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    No, no, no, no, no.

    What seems beyond everyone here is that yes, most prayers ARE answered.

    It's just that, sometimes, the answer is No.
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    @rwingett said
    Funny how the universe behaves exactly as you would expect if there were no god.
    How would the universe behave differently if God in fact existed?
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    @chaney3 said
    .....supposed to help us while we're on earth?

    Or is the "Good News" strictly pertaining to the afterlife?

    He doesn't seem to be helping all that much while we're on earth.
    You recently declared yourself to be a Christian right?
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    @fmf said
    The only plausible way that the long dead maverick rabbi Jesus could be said to "help" people - two millennia after his execution - is if everyone were to adhere to what was reported (after his death) to have been his teaching about good works and how to treat each other.
    Is that who you think Jesus is, a long dead maverick rabbi?
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