Is plagiarizing a sin? For you theists out there.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Did not go to the link, but I view it as two things, stealing something
that does not belong to you, and lying about you doing the work, both
of which are sins.
Kelly

Here is a link to one of the authors she stole from.

http://www.catherinemann.com/my-work-plagiarized/

Catherine puts two versions, one of her book and one of this Kristal and it is clear Kristal was totally aware of what she was doing, she took Catherine's work and changed names of people inside the story.

This was cold blooded plagiarism, very consciously done. It was not, as Kristal claims, an accidental cut and paste and forgotten kind of incident.

Look at the two versions.

As if that weren't enough, she copied from Liz Fielding also:

http://lizfielding.blogspot.com/2012/02/copyright-theft.html

The main question is, why is she not in jail, up on fraud charges?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Here is a link to one of the authors she stole from.

http://www.catherinemann.com/my-work-plagiarized/

Catherine puts two versions, one of her book and one of this Kristal and it is clear Kristal was totally aware of what she was doing, she took Catherine's work and changed names of people inside the story.

This was cold blooded plagiarism, very ...[text shortened]... 12/02/copyright-theft.html

The main question is, why is she not in jail, up on fraud charges?

I think its Kristal clear. 🙂

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Your logic escapes: The Ten Commandments Codex was given to Moses by Jehovah (YHWH) God in the Old Testament. Caesar ruled during New Testament Times. In the USA, our Constitution provides for the protection of a citizen's "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" (inclusive of the citizen's family, home and property) as I understand its provisions.

I was using Caesar to represent the worldly state, as Jesus has been read that way in his remark about rendering to Caesar.

But the question is a serious one. Who decides whether a quoting of another's work is "fair use" and is unfair use a sin? It is, who decides this? The state? If so, some things are sins here but not there, or now but not then, and God delegates that decision to the state.

Originally posted by JS357
I was using Caesar to represent the worldly state, as Jesus has been read that way in his remark about rendering to Caesar.

But the question is a serious one. Who decides whether a citation of another's work is "fair use" and is unfair use a sin? It is, who decides this? The state? If so, some things are sins here but not there, or now but not then, and God delegates that decision to the state.

"Thou Shall Not Steal." -One of God's Standards
(provided to be applied in principle by men in their country's constitutions, laws, codes of conduct, mores
and collective conscience of right and wrong for the benefit of their common good as civilized people).

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Thou Shall Not Steal." -One of God's Standards
(provided to be applied in principle by men in their country's constitutions, laws, codes of conduct, mores
and collective conscience of right and wrong for the benefit of their common good as civilized people).

Interesting. I don't have much to say about that idea, it's just interesting for now. Thanks.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Here is a link to one of the authors she stole from.

http://www.catherinemann.com/my-work-plagiarized/

Catherine puts two versions, one of her book and one of this Kristal and it is clear Kristal was totally aware of what she was doing, she took Catherine's work and changed names of people inside the story.

This was cold blooded plagiarism, very ...[text shortened]... 12/02/copyright-theft.html

The main question is, why is she not in jail, up on fraud charges?

Not sure what you want from me I answered the question, I thought
doing so was stealing and lying.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not sure what you want from me I answered the question, I thought
doing so was stealing and lying.
Kelly

I was just showing the depth of her plagiarizing, it was not, as she tried to claim, some accidental forgetting a cut and paste, it was her JOB.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I was just showing the depth of her plagiarizing, it was not, as she tried to claim, some accidental forgetting a cut and paste, it was her JOB.

Her JOB. How do you know?

The Instructor

Originally posted by RJHinds
Her JOB. How do you know?

The Instructor

In her mind, her profession was making books, a professional writer. So in her mind, her job was plagiarizing others.

Do you know her? I don't, just what I see online and her admissions.

Originally posted by sonhouse
In her mind, her profession was making books, a professional writer. So in her mind, her job was plagiarizing others.

Do you know her? I don't, just what I see online and her admissions.

What I read was her admission that she was not an author. So you must have read something different than me.

The Instructor

Originally posted by RJHinds
What I read was her admission that she was not an author. So you must have read something different than me.

The Instructor

She had books for sale, sounds like she was an author to me. Do you know her?

Originally posted by sonhouse
She had books for sale, sounds like she was an author to me. Do you know her?

Apparently you know more than I do about it.

The Instructor

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you know more than I do about it.

The Instructor

Are you absolutely sure about that? You know nothing about her?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Are you absolutely sure about that? You know nothing about her?

No, I am not sure. I thought I might know something about her. But I must be mistaken, since you are the expert that has been studying this problem. I will leave it to you to solve.

The Instructor

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, I am not sure. I thought I might know something about her. But I must be mistaken, since you are the expert that has been studying this problem. I will leave it to you to solve.

The Instructor

Is she related to you somehow?