Originally posted by rwingettYou may very well be far ahead of me, but about what?
Even if I'm not in the top ten, I'm still far ahead of you.
My point stands. By your reasoning, the Islamic god is false because Abraham was not a Muslim. Since Abraham was also not a Christian, it likewise stands that the Christian god is false. By your reasoning, since Abraham was Jewish, the Jewish god is the true god and Jesus was a big nobody.
...[text shortened]... y, then there is no reason why the Muslims can't hijack both to lay the foundation for Islam.
The God of the Bible is both the God of Abraham and of the Christian.
The difference is that Abraham looked forward to the cross, and Christians look back.
Common' rwingett. Don't be so, (whatever the word is). I understand your position. Why come across emotionally driven about God?
Humans would still be the same even if there was no God.
Originally posted by josephwc'mon rwingwett? how bout c'mon JW?
You may very well be far ahead of me, but about what?
The God of the Bible is both the God of Abraham and of the Christian.
The difference is that Abraham looked forward to the cross, and Christians look back.
Common' rwingett. Don't be so, (whatever the word is). I understand your position. Why come across emotionally driven about God?
Humans would still be the same even if there was no God.
How about this: What if God told you that everything would be fine in the world if everyone converted to Islam but warned you that if christianity persisted then there would be trouble for everyone?
Would you renounce christianity? Or would your (hypothetical) ways continue?
Originally posted by karoly aczelWhat if...?
c'mon rwingwett? how bout c'mon JW?
How about this: What if God told you that everything would be fine in the world if everyone converted to Islam but warned you that if christianity persisted then there would be trouble for everyone?
Would you renounce christianity? Or would your (hypothetical) ways continue?
I don't live according to what ifs.
I live by what is.
Jesus is the light of the world. No ifs, ands, or buts.
You will learn this truth one way or another, sooner or later.
Originally posted by josephwCool,I admire your conviction.
What if...?
I don't live according to what ifs.
I live by what is.
Jesus is the light of the world. No ifs, ands, or buts.
You will learn this truth one way or another, sooner or later.
Now if your view is the 'truth' as you claim in your post why should you have any trouble entertaining an inquiring mind on some hypothetical questions. Or is a closed mind a requirement for understanding christianity?
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Originally posted by karoly aczel"...why should you have any trouble entertaining an inquiring mind on some hypothetical questions."
Cool,I admire your conviction.
Now if your view is the 'truth' as you claim in your post why should you have any trouble entertaining an inquiring mind on some hypothetical questions. Or is a closed mind a requirement for understanding christianity?
But I did!
"Or is a closed mind a requirement for understanding Christianity?"
An open mind is absolutely required for understanding. And I would add, so is an honest heart.
Unfortunately I encounter here in this forum, far too many biased and prejudiced minds to have any meaningful discussions. It all seems to deteriorate into mob hysteria.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesSo are you #1 or #10 or somewhere in between?
I'm not a retard. I'm one of the ten most intelligent people on this entire site. Ask around.
Just out of curiosity, do you consider to be intellectually superior than the person I follow which is Jesus Christ? Am I being led astray? How about someone I don't follow such as Mohammad?
Originally posted by rwingettNo fouler than Christianity?
DoctorScribbles is right, Islam IS foul. This is beyond dispute. But it is no fouler than any other religion. The good doctor's mistake is that by singling out Islam he seems to imply that other religions are not foul, or that Islam is the foulest of religions. That, of course, would be cause for outrage. But if we recognize that Islam is no fouler than, say, Christianity, then there is no cause for offense.
Hold on here!! We must ask someone far more intelligent than yourself, otherwise, you can't convince me.
Dr. Scribbs, calling Dr. Scribbs, do you consider Christianity to be as foul as Islam?
Originally posted by josephwI dont want to get too picky but you didn't!
[b]"...why should you have any trouble entertaining an inquiring mind on some hypothetical questions."
But I did!
"Or is a closed mind a requirement for understanding Christianity?"
An open mind is absolutely required for understanding. And I would add, so is an honest heart.
Unfortunately I encounter here in this forum, far too many ...[text shortened]... ced minds to have any meaningful discussions. It all seems to deteriorate into mob hysteria.[/b]
You said you had no time for 'what ifs' .
I have found many a 'meaningful' discussion on here .
The only 'mob hysteria' I've encountered has been from christians.
Sorry. Thats just my reading.
Feel free to point out to me the 'mob hysteria' I've missed. Or anything else for that matter.
Originally posted by karoly aczelWell its a known fact that Christians are the only ones who have shown that they are susceptible to "mob hysteria". 😛
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I have found many a 'meaningful' discussion on here .
The only 'mob hysteria' I've encountered has been from christians.
Sorry. Thats just my reading.
Feel free to point out to me the 'mob hysteria' I've missed. Or anything else for that matter.[/b]
Originally posted by rwingettI take your point, to a point. I disagree with you on all religions being foul, but you've provided a reason why a somewhat rational person might say that Islam is foul.
DoctorScribbles is right, Islam IS foul. This is beyond dispute. But it is no fouler than any other religion. The good doctor's mistake is that by singling out Islam he seems to imply that other religions are not foul, or that Islam is the foulest of religions. That, of course, would be cause for outrage. But if we recognize that Islam is no fouler than, say, Christianity, then there is no cause for offense.
However, DrScribbles is a Christian, and he is an absolute joke and the most offensive person on this forum.
Originally posted by scherzoBefore you cast stones, you may want to take inventory of yourself. If I recall, you posted many offensive threads in the past. One that comes to mind was a thread in which you questioned the Holocaust as not be really as bad as people say it was.
However, DrScribbles is a Christian, and he is an absolute joke and the most offensive person on this forum.[/b]
So tell us, which religion tries to convince people that the Holocaust never occured or that it is not that bad?
Originally posted by josephwOf course the god of the bible is both the god of Abraham and of the Christian. Christians wrote the New Testament, or course they're going to write it that way. Duh! I'm sure you're familiar with "circular reasoning" by now. You can't use the bible to prove what the bible says is true.
You may very well be far ahead of me, but about what?
The God of the Bible is both the God of Abraham and of the Christian.
The difference is that Abraham looked forward to the cross, and Christians look back.
Common' rwingett. Don't be so, (whatever the word is). I understand your position. Why come across emotionally driven about God?
Humans would still be the same even if there was no God.
Originally posted by scherzoDr.Scribbles a Christian? I think you are mistaken on that point.
I take your point, to a point. I disagree with you on all religions being foul, but you've provided a reason why a somewhat rational person might say that Islam is foul.
However, DrScribbles is a Christian, and he is an absolute joke and the most offensive person on this forum.