Originally posted by whodeyAnd what was the religion of the people who actually carried out the Holocaust?
Before you cast stones, you may want to take inventory of yourself. If I recall, you posted many offensive threads in the past. One that comes to mind was a thread in which you questioned the Holocaust as not be really as bad as people say it was.
So tell us, which religion tries to convince people that the Holocaust never occured or that it is not that bad?
Originally posted by whodeyNiiice!
Well its a known fact that Christians are the only ones who have shown that they are susceptible to "mob hysteria". π
If I am serious you mock me. If I am joking you say I'm a pot-head.
As for even getting near to answer any questions you are absent!
Even though I said it was just 'my reading' π
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou tend to get mocked when you mock others. Myself included I suppose. π
Niiice!
If I am serious you mock me. If I am joking you say I'm a pot-head.
As for even getting near to answer any questions you are absent!
Even though I said it was just 'my reading' π
Originally posted by rwingettI would say that Christiandom is responsible for the persecution of the Jewish people in Europe well before the Holocaust. These facts are well documented. In fact, the Holocuast was simply the climax to such persecution over the centuries. As to whether they were following the teachings of Jesus, this is quit a different question altogether. I don't see any Biblical justification for it, so I can't blame Christ for the issue, only the proported followers.
And what was the religion of the people who actually carried out the Holocaust?
Having said that, it now appears that Islam is taking up the cause of persecuting the Jews. I guess its their turn now, eh? In fact, there are indications where Mohammad says that Jews should be killed in certain circumstances so to seperate that from the religion can be problematic to say the least, especially when the religion is based soley on what Mohammad said. So if we compare the teachings of Mohammad to that of Christ, who's is more righteous do you think? Who is on the side of truth do you think?
Originally posted by karoly aczelI was not trying to start something, rather, I was just trying to make a point which was you were generalizing and demonizing a particular group of people even though you said it was "only your take". I suppose that is your out. My apologies.
And i suppose you think it fair the way you 'answered my question' .
Are you trying to start something? Or just reacting to non-christian views without any evidence?
Originally posted by whodeyThanks.
I was not trying to start something, rather, I was just trying to make a point which was you were generalizing and demonizing a particular group of people even though you said it was "only your take". I suppose that is your out. My apologies.
I didn't want to demonize christians in particular , it was just the first example that came to mind.
Hope the surfs up!π
Originally posted by whodeyhey,just stop now while you were ahead! I have made heart-felt points on this forum and you have come along and said 'thats what smoking pot will do to you'.
Far out dude!!
BTW: I wasn't trying to call you a pot head, I was just having some fun!!
A personal attack that doesn't take into account my arguement and just slurrs my own character.
Please learn the time for humour and the time for serioussness.
Yes,granted you were trying to have some fun ...I hope someone enjoyed it.
Originally posted by rwingettthey were followers of a cult, Nazism, which, like most cults, have a 'charismatic leader', who imposes his will on the subordinates. They were not Christian, for they did not follow the teachings of the Christ. Also i might like to add, to which holocaust are you referring to, for there are not a few, the Armenian comes to mind as does the recent ethnic violence (genocide) between Tutsi and Hutu, or other ongoing ones, like the Palestinian, or the Chechnyaian or Sudanese etc etc etc.
And what was the religion of the people who actually carried out the Holocaust?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"No True Scotsman."
they were followers of a cult, Nazism, which, like most cults, have a 'charismatic leader', who imposes his will on the subordinates. They were not Christian, for they did not follow the teachings of the Christ.
You'd expect a Scotsman to be familiar with that one.
Originally posted by rwingettLol, its cannot be so easily parried my friend with reference to such tools of rhetoric, the facts remain and it can easily be established, that they were not following the teachings of the Christ, easily. therefore they cannot be Christian. They are something else.
"No True Scotsman."
You'd expect a Scotsman to be familiar with that one.
Originally posted by whodeyI seem to recall Islam having a certain respect for fellow "people of the book." I also seem to recall that, historically, Jewish communities were far better treated in Islamic countries than they were in Christian ones. Once again, though, I am not claiming that Islam is better than Christianity. I am claiming that their deep level of foulness is exactly the same.
I would say that Christiandom is responsible for the persecution of the Jewish people in Europe well before the Holocaust. These facts are well documented. In fact, the Holocuast was simply the climax to such persecution over the centuries. As to whether they were following the teachings of Jesus, this is quit a different question altogether. I don't see ...[text shortened]... t of Christ, who's is more righteous do you think? Who is on the side of truth do you think?
Originally posted by rwingettSorry to butt in. (This post is about logic of your challenge btw, not about Christianity.)
"No True Scotsman."
You'd expect a Scotsman to be familiar with that one.
According to you Jesus was a socialist yes? Well also according to you, Jesus was either deluded or a liar (i.e. claiming to be God and claiming he would return etc). Does the rational hold then that all socialists are either deluded or liars?
Of course not. Therefore all who claim to follow Christ do not necessarily do so. Your argument about the Nazis being Christians is childlike I'm afraid.