Originally posted by @romans1009I know Christ and he knows me . He approves and thats all I need
You’re a sad case, Karoly.
You have the opportunity to know Christ and you refuse. You have the opportunity to learn, but instead of asking questions, you pretend you have all the answers.
Your pride is getting in the way of knowing and accepting Jesus Christ. But that’s sadly a common occurrence, especially in here.
But you are right, I do have the answers
Originally posted by @secondsonIm certain you know what your church doctrine says about it. Im not interested in that.
Jesus didn't say on the cross His "work was finished".
He said, "it is finished", and I'm certain you don't know what "it" is.
If you want to tell me what the BIBLE says then .. go right ahead.
Originally posted by @rajk999"Im certain you know what your church doctrine says about it."
Im certain you know what your church doctrine says about it. Im not interested in that.
If you want to tell me what the BIBLE says then .. go right ahead.
I'm sure you're don't.
Now, if you can manage to stay on topic, why don't you at least attempt to tell what Jesus meant by "it is finished" just before He died.
You blew it on your first attempt a couple of posts ago. Give another try. Just google it if you can't find it in the Bible.
Originally posted by @secondsonI already answered. I dont fancy googling your church doctrine.
[b]"Im certain you know what your church doctrine says about it."
I'm sure you're don't.
Now, if you can manage to stay on topic, why don't you at least attempt to tell what Jesus meant by "it is finished" just before He died.
You blew it on your first attempt a couple of posts ago. Give another try. Just google it if you can't find it in the Bible.[/b]
Im waiting. I know why you dont want to answer.
Because your church interpretation of 'it is finished', is a pile of nonsense.
It is a fabrication and a twisting of the truth.
it has no basis in bible teachings.
And you well know that the minute that you start to post unbiblical nonsense i will shoot it down
Come on .. make my day .. Im waiting.
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Originally posted by @rajk999Would you say the following verse in Ephesians 2:8 is true or false?
I would be happy to answer questions that are based on scripture.
I answer no questions which are:
- of a personal nature
- which are based on your church doctrine.
If your question is based on scripture then please point me to the reference, thanks
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.…"
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDont ask me if a reference is true or false. Now that you have the reference, tell me what your interpretation of that reference is. We can discuss it from there. Thanks
Would you say the following verse in Ephesians 2:8 is true or false?
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.…"
Originally posted by @rajk999The Father seeks true worshippers to worship Him "in spirit and in truthfulness" (John 4:23)
Mouth worshiping churches that preach false doctrines. Yes.
These places and their followers will be destroyed.
You with them, unless you change your doctrine
Is that a false doctrine ?
Is that a true doctrine but excludes the use of the human mouth?
Forget about spirituality. You are deficient in basic human integrity.
When are you leaving the Forum like you promised, following Karoly for awhile? How soon will that be ?
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Originally posted by @rajk999My interpretation of this verse is to take it exactly as it is written. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.…" I take it you interpret this verse to mean we are saved by works and not by faith?
Dont ask me if a reference is true or false. Now that you have the reference, tell me what your interpretation of that reference is. We can discuss it from there. Thanks
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhy are you telling me what my interpretation is?
My interpretation of this verse is to take it exactly as it is written. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.…" I take it you interpret this verse to mean we are saved by works and not by faith?
Is that how you carry on a discussion?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerGood luck to you pal. Stay on the straight and narrow.
Based upon everything you have said that seems to be your interpretation. If I'm mistaken feel free to set the record straight.