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    16 Apr '18 10:07
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the ...[text shortened]... t any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?”

    (Hebrews 1:8-13)
    That is the supporting reference for this ..

    .. that Jesus said
    - believe in His diety
    - believe that he was the promised Messiah.


    ??? Is that it? Well that passage says no such thing.

    The passage shows - God referring to His Son Jesus as God as well.
    I believe that Jesus is a God as well and that he had divine attributes.
    I also believe that Jesus is the Messiah...
    There is not commandments or requirement to believe in His Diety as you claim.

    I believe that:
    - Jesus is NOT equal to God His Father
    - Jesus is NOT the same as God.
    - They are two separate and distinct entities... Father and Son
    - God is greater that Jesus, The Father is greater than the Son
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    Unlike you I have crystal clear passages to support what I believe.
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    16 Apr '18 13:19
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    That is the supporting reference for this ..

    .. that Jesus said
    - believe in His diety
    - believe that he was the promised Messiah.


    ??? Is that it? Well that passage says no such thing.

    The passage shows - God referring to His Son Jesus as God as well.
    I believe that Jesus is a God as well and that he had divine attributes.
    I also beli ...[text shortened]... is greater than the Son
    -
    Unlike you I have crystal clear passages to support what I believe.
    I already told you where to find verses where Jesus identified Himself as God. The Hebrews verses I posted were in response to the post you made which I quoted when I posted them.
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    16 Apr '18 13:44
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    I already told you where to find verses where Jesus identified Himself as God. The Hebrews verses I posted were in response to the post you made which I quoted when I posted them.
    There are none.
    Jesus said he is the Son of God
    Jesus said that God is his Father
    God said that Jesus is His Son
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    16 Apr '18 13:52
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    There are none.
    Jesus said he is the Son of God
    Jesus said that God is his Father
    God said that Jesus is His Son
    In the Hebrews verses (chapter 1, verses 8 through 13) God the Father calls Jesus “God” not “His Son.” But it’s six of one, half of a dozen of the other, as God the Father referring to Jesus as His Son does not dispute Jesus’ deity.
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    16 Apr '18 13:59
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    In the Hebrews verses (chapter 1, verses 8 through 13) God the Father calls Jesus “God” not “His Son.” But it’s six of one, half of a dozen of the other, as God the Father referring to Jesus as His Son does not dispute Jesus’ deity.
    I never disputed Jesus diety.
    But Jesus is not the same as His Father.
    'Two separate and distinct entities
    God is greater that Jesus

    I also disputed that Jesus said that anyone has to believe in his diety.
    Its not in the Bible. You still cannot distinguish Bible teaching from church doctrine.

    And you are a stinking liar. That same Hebrews chapter has many places where God calls Jesus his son

    For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? (Hebrews 1:5 KJV)
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    16 Apr '18 14:05
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    I never disputed Jesus diety.
    But Jesus is not the same as His Father.
    'Two separate and distinct entities
    God is greater that Jesus

    I also disputed that Jesus said that anyone has to believe in his diety.
    Its not in the Bible. You still cannot distinguish Bible teaching from church doctrine.

    And you are a stinking liar. That same Hebrews chapter ...[text shortened]... And again, [b]I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
    (Hebrews 1:5 KJV)[/i][/b]
    There you go with the hate again. Really sad you’ve got so much hate in you.

    I wasn’t lying at all as I said *in the Hebrews verses I cited.* Obviously God the Father calls Jesus His Son in the same chapter - not to mention other places in the Bible. That makes no difference as God the Father calling Jesus His Son doesn’t dispute Jesus’ deity.
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    16 Apr '18 14:08
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    I never disputed Jesus diety.
    But Jesus is not the same as His Father.
    'Two separate and distinct entities
    God is greater that Jesus

    I also disputed that Jesus said that anyone has to believe in his diety.
    Its not in the Bible. You still cannot distinguish Bible teaching from church doctrine.

    And you are a stinking liar. That same Hebrews chapter ...[text shortened]... And again, [b]I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
    (Hebrews 1:5 KJV)[/i][/b]
    By the way, do you understand that deity means God? So you’re saying that you don’t deny Jesus is God but you think that God the Father is greater than God the Son? Do you think the Holy Spirit is God? Where does He fit into your heirarchy? The fact is, God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and the Holy Spirit are all God and are all co-equal.
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    16 Apr '18 14:171 edit
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    There you go with the hate again. Really sad you’ve got so much hate in you.

    I wasn’t lying at all as I said *in the Hebrews verses I cited.* Obviously God the Father calls Jesus His Son in the same chapter - not to mention other places in the Bible. That makes no difference as God the Father calling Jesus His Son doesn’t dispute Jesus’ deity.
    There you go with the lies again.
    Really sad you have so much lies in you
    The 4th word or verse 8 is what? .. SON

    Liars do not enter the Kingdom of God.
    God hates liars

    You got that?

    GOD HATES LIARS.

    Dumb Church rats like you will say God has so much hate.
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    16 Apr '18 14:181 edit
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    By the way, do you understand that deity means God? So you’re saying that you don’t deny Jesus is God but you think that God the Father is greater than God the Son? Do you think the Holy Spirit is God? Where does He fit into your heirarchy? The fact is, God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and the Holy Spirit are all God and are all co-equal.
    Not interested pal ..
    God hates liars
    I hate liars

    We can no longer communicate
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    16 Apr '18 14:35
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Not interested pal ..
    God hates liars
    I hate liars

    We can no longer communicate
    Good grief, amigo. You’re serving up the Haterade by the gallon. Not interested in answering those questions? Ok, have a nice day spewing your hate.
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    16 Apr '18 14:39
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    There you go with the lies again.
    Really sad you have so much lies in you
    The 4th word or verse 8 is what? .. SON

    Liars do not enter the Kingdom of God.
    God hates liars

    You got that?

    GOD HATES LIARS.

    Dumb Church rats like you will say God has so much hate.
    God the Father calls Jesus “God” in verse 8. You don’t see that? The part you referenced (fourth word) is not God the Father speaking.
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    16 Apr '18 20:24
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Not interested pal ..
    God hates liars
    I hate liars

    We can no longer communicate
    The hatred in you has you blind.

    God loves liars and sinners of all stripes.

    You had better reexamine your theology. John 3:16
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    16 Apr '18 21:35
    Originally posted by @secondson
    The hatred in you has you blind.

    God loves liars and sinners of all stripes.

    You had better reexamine your theology. John 3:16
    Examine yours :

    He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:7-8 KJV)

    These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    A proud look,
    a lying tongue,
    and hands that shed innocent blood,
    An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
    feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    A false witness that speaketh lies,
    and he that soweth discord among brethren.
    (Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV)
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    16 Apr '18 23:101 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Examine yours :

    He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, [b]and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    (Revel ...[text shortened]... ss that speaketh lies,
    and he that soweth discord among brethren.
    (Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV)
    [/b]
    Cherry picking again I see.

    Let's duel!

    Matthew 5:43-45
    Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
    But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

    Remember Rajk to obey the commandments of Jesus.

    Or are you just practicing lip service and mouth worship?
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    17 Apr '18 00:57
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Examine yours :

    He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, [b]and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    (Revel ...[text shortened]... ss that speaketh lies,
    and he that soweth discord among brethren.
    (Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV)
    [/b]
    You oughta be concerned about the “proud look” part, amigo. Something tells me puffing out your chest is the same thing.

    Not to mention the false witness and sowing discord parts.
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