Originally posted by Suzianne The problem is that conservatives don't want to see the people in need, and they will take great steps to keep from seeing them, from denying them simple social services to deporting them, all in the name of keeping their beloved tax breaks.
I see people in need every single day. I see and talk to people with nothing every day. And I mean *nothing* to their name. There is NO reason why anyone in America needs to go hungry. None at all.
Here is the dirty little secrete Suzianne, you CAN"T label all conservatives and liberals as polar opposites when it comes to the poor. Case in point is the recently deceased Hitchins. He railed against Mother Teresa for the way she helped care for those in need while advocating for socialism and doing NOTHING of significance to help the poor himself. It was almost as if he was begging government to force him to give to those in need because he did not have the gonades to do it himself.
I created a thread a little while back comparing those who practice their faith and those who do not. Overwhemingly, those of faith on average are more likely to help those in need than those who do not, whether it comes to donating their time or money. I even provided a few articles showing the statistics on such things, instead of a broad sweeping generalization that is backed by nothing.
Originally posted by Suzianne America needs a little more socialism in my opinion.
Or maybe just people who care beyond their own selfish needs.
If you had not noticed Suzianne, many of the socialist leaning countries around the world are on the verge of collapse, including the US. How many people will they help when that happens?
Originally posted by whodey If you had not noticed Suzianne, many of the socialist leaning countries around the world are on the verge of collapse, including the US. How many people will they help when that happens?
they are on that verge due to unfettered capitalism. time to reign it in and heavily regulate it and put it on the road to dismantling it fully.
Originally posted by VoidSpirit they are on that verge due to unfettered capitalism. time to reign it in and heavily regulate it and put it on the road to dismantling it fully.
Funny. Capitalism survived the Great Depression, but no one can save it from the looming government debt.
Originally posted by whodey My point here is that it rebooted. Now government has seen to it that it will be destroyed altogether.
So what replacement do you forsee?
government did not see to that. capitalism has the seeds of its own destruction in its very design, it was never meant as a long term economic solution. what government has done and will continue to do is keep it on life support for as long as they can until it collapses finally into anarchy.
what will it be replaced with? anybody's guess. maybe it'll just be a cold-reboot of capitalism starting from zero.
people don't learn from their mistakes when greed is involved.
as for the immediate outlook for the near future, expect another patch. the lizards have gathered in davos to decide our fate.
Originally posted by VoidSpirit are you asking me if i support his socialist policies or the entire package of christ?
My guess is just the part about Christ that seems appealing to you and then pitch the rest, right? After all, everyone wants a peice of him, but not everyone wants all of him.
Originally posted by VoidSpirit government did not see to that. capitalism has the seeds of its own destruction in its very design, it was never meant as a long term economic solution. what government has done and will continue to do is keep it on life support for as long as they can until it collapses finally into anarchy.
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A little known fact is that God is ultimately in control. 😀
Originally posted by VoidSpirit mat:25
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35for I did hunger, and ye gave me to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and ye received me;
36naked, and ye put around me; I was infirm, and ye looked after me; in prison I was, and ye came unto me.
37`Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, and we nourished? o ...[text shortened]... s
these are core liberal values. all go against the grain of modern christian conservatism.
You should pick topics that you know what your talking about.
Kelly
29 Jan '12 01:20
jesus the liberal socialist.
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