Originally posted by SuzianneWhich post or posts did Rajk999 talk about there being "no Christians" on "the list"? I think you have claimed something false.
What YOU think is as important to me as last week's weather.
I'm simply not prepared to align anything you say with "truth".
You twist everything, to suit your own ends, which aren't exactly "saintly".
I've wasted far too much with you already.
Originally posted by SuzianneI think you will find that KellyJay does believe that Jews go to "hell". You should ask him to be unequivocal about it. That's what I have been asking him to do. If you think KellyJay's belief is "nonsensical". why don't you say it directly to him, rather than through me?
The question, in itself, is nonsensical.
No one "goes to hell" simply for being a Jew.
Originally posted by SuzianneMore arrogant Christianity in action. Christians dont own Christ. Christ could be in anyone even atheists, and Christ and God can make anyone righteous even atheists.
No one, no, not one, is righteous without Christ.
And you say it with your mouth, but do you really understand Romans 10:10? You SAY you do, and we all agree with what you SAY (with your mouth). If you think that no Christians in this forum believe in the Lord Jesus in their hearts (and with the help of the Holy Spirit, claim testimony of Him with thei ...[text shortened]... ttempt on a regular basis, conducting smear campaigns just because someone disagrees with them.)
God / Christ is in everyone who live good lives. Christians dont have a monopoly on righteousness. In fact they have abdicated their responsibility to live righteously.
If a man professes his faith and lives a sinful life he may claim what he likes about Christ and claim he Knows Christ until the cows come home .. he will in fact end up in a worse position than the atheist .. a fate worse than death according to Paul.
A man can profess nothing and live righteously. He will be will be welcomed into the Kingdom of God.
I know your selfishness would not permit you to see that.. but thats your loss.
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Originally posted by FMFHe does believe that judging from what he posts. He just lacks to balls to come out as say it.
I think you will find that KellyJay does believe that Jews go to "hell". You should ask him to be unequivocal about it. That's what I have been asking him to do. If you think KellyJay's belief is "nonsensical". why don't you say it directly to him, rather than through me?
Originally posted by SuzianneI have read what KellyJay has said, and I have read what he has copy pasted on this thread. The meaning I have gleaned from it, is that KellyJay believes Jews go to "hell" because they don't believe in Jesus. What meaning have you gleaned?
If you'd actually read what KJ said, you would have gotten this, but you were too focused on your attempt to run him down that you couldn't be bothered with gleaning his meaning on your own.
Originally posted by FMFHe did not say "all Christians", but he certainly believes, if not all, then most (he's already been called out on this and now carefully uses the word "some" ), Christians **in this forum** have Christ's doctrines completely wrong. This is untrue. I would defy you, him, or anyone to find just ONE in this forum who believes that one can just "say" they believe in Christ without following him. it is a lie, and blatant false witness. This is not "following Christ", and so this makes him a hypocrite.
Which post or posts did Rajk999 talk about there being "no Christians" on "the list"? I think you have claimed something false.
Are you happy now, Mr. Pedant? Do you have ANYthing for me that is not a trolling pedantic outburst? Focusing on one incorrect word does not make the balance of what is said untrue, no matter how much you might wish this to be true. You're playing up the misuse of one word and ignoring the entire point, as usual.
Originally posted by SuzianneSo you are now retracting your claim that Rajk999 has said that "no Christians" are on "the list"?
He did not say "all Christians", but he certainly believes, if not all, then most (he's already been called out on this and now carefully uses the word "some" ), Christians **in this forum** have Christ's doctrines completely wrong. This is untrue. I would defy you, him, or anyone to find just ONE in this forum who believes that one can just "say" they be ...[text shortened]... s to be true. You're playing up the misuse of one word and ignoring the entire point, as usual.
Originally posted by FMFExcuse me while I laugh. I fully expected you to be so completely evasive about this. I disagree, though, KJ was clear. Except that YOU have merely "mislabeled" what he said to follow your OWN agenda, which is to attack Christians. The sad part is that you still have so many "hangers on" that parrot your remarks back out to the ether..
I think you will find that KellyJay does believe that Jews go to "hell". You should ask him to be unequivocal about it. That's what I have been asking him to do. If you think KellyJay's belief is "nonsensical". why don't you say it directly to him, rather than through me?
And to be clear, just in case you intend to smear what I say like you're attempting to smear him, I do not think KJ's belief is "nonsensical", you're just making that up. I'm also not saying ANYthing "through you". What is nonsensical is THE QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE, designed to attempt to smear and "make fun". He replied with his belief, which has NOTHING to do with "Jews going to hell", that Christ is the difference, not "being a Jew". Why do you skip over this? Oh yeah, it's all about the unjustified smearing of KJ. Disgusting.
Originally posted by SuzianneSo you think KellyJay believes that Jews don't go to "hell"? Is that it?
Excuse me while I laugh. I fully expected you to be so completely evasive about this. I disagree, though, KJ was clear. Except that YOU have merely "mislabeled" what he said to follow your OWN agenda, which is to attack Christians. The sad part is that you still have so many "hangers on" that parrot your remarks back out to the ether..
And to be clea ...[text shortened]... Why do you skip over this? Oh yeah, it's all about the unjustified smearing of KJ. Disgusting.
Originally posted by FMFAnswered.
I have read what KellyJay has said, and I have read what he has copy pasted on this thread. The meaning I have gleaned from it, is that KellyJay believes Jews go to "hell" because they don't believe in Jesus. What meaning have you gleaned?
That is not the "meaning" you've gleaned. I doubt you've gleaned ANYthing from it. There is only your agenda which must be followed at all costs.
Stop with your "forum combat".