JW's drop attempts to block sex abuse inquiry

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I would respect my sister's wishes on the matter. Do you think the victims want the 'whole world' to know every detail of what happened to them? She actually choose not to go to the authorities, and her perpetrator is now rotting in jail for a murder he committed years later. Karma is a b!tch.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I would respect my sister's wishes on the matter.

You have a "sister"?

Originally posted by FMF
You have a "sister"?

Only one. I know you have a hard time believing what I say.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you think the victims want the 'whole world' to know every detail of what happened to them?

From the OP: "The Charity Commission launched an inquiry into safeguarding at the religion’s main UK charity in May 2014 after receiving allegations that survivors of rape and sexual abuse, including people abused as children, were forced to face their attackers in “judicial committees”."

So me victims do, some victims don't. No victims were compelled to come forward in the recent Australian Royal Commission for example.

Originally posted by FMF
From the OP: [b]"The Charity Commission launched an inquiry into safeguarding at the religion’s main UK charity in May 2014 after receiving allegations that survivors of rape and sexual abuse, including people abused as children, were forced to face their attackers in “judicial committees”."[b]

So me victims do, some victims don't. No victims were compelled to come forward in the recent Australian Royal Commission for example.

I agree the victim's decision should be respected.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Only one. I know you have a hard time believing what I say.

The questions you are asking and the way you seem to be trying so hard to find a trolling angle on this serious subject make it sound like you fabricated the story about this "sister" of yours.

Originally posted by FMF
The questions you are asking and the way you seem to be trying so hard to find a trolling angle on this serious subject make it sound like you fabricated the story about this "sister" of yours.

Like I said before, I don't care if you believe me. If the JW leaders were blocking the investigations due to the wishes of the victims who don't want the details of the abuse leaked out to the public, would you have a problem with the investigations being blocked?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If the JW leaders were blocking the investigations due to the wishes of the victims who don't want the details of the abuse leaked out to the public, would you have a problem with the investigations being blocked?

Who would be making the allegations in such a scenario? You sound either like [1] you've never spent a moment in your life thinking about this issue and have no experience of it or anyone affected by it, or [2] you are desparate to find a gormless-question-driven trolling angle.

Originally posted by FMF
Who would be making the allegations in such a scenario? You sound either like [1] you've never spent a moment in your life thinking about this issue and have no experience of it or anyone affected by it, or [2] you are desparate to find a gormless-question-driven trolling angle.

People in whom the victims had confided or family members who found out about the abuse. Or anyone else that was aware of the allegations.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
People in whom the victims had confided or family members who found out about the abuse.

Unless the victim makes the allegations and provides testimony, there would be no case. Do you believe that, in cases like the one in the OP, and the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cases looked at by the Royal Commission,in Australia that "the JW leaders were blocking the investigations due to the wishes of the victims"?

Originally posted by FMF
Unless the victim makes the allegations and provides testimony, there would be no case. Do you believe that, in cases like the one in the OP, and the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cases looked at by the Royal Commission,in Australia that "the JW leaders were blocking the investigations due to the wishes of the victims"?

So you are saying only a victim is allowed to press charges? And no one can be charged unless it is the victim pressing the charges? 🙄

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you are saying only a victim is allowed to press charges?

Anyone can report a crime. Whether it ends up in a prosecution depends on the victims, witnesses, and the law enforcement authorities. The issue - in Australia for example - is how allegations of child sex abuse - made by victims - were handled by the JW organization, and how the way the allegations were handled contributed to a situation where the organization did not report a single one of these serious crimes to the authorities - despite in some cases taking action against the perpetrators - for fifty years. Not a single one in fifty years.

If you are interested in how such a state of affairs might have come about, and if you are unaware of the kinds of pressures brought to bear on members seen as disrupting or threatening the group in a cult situation, then I suggest you spend some time having a look at the material here http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/public-hearings/case-studies

Originally posted by FMF
I suggest you spend some time having a look at the material here http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/public-hearings/case-studies

Actually, the Exhibits, Transcripts, and Media Releases seem to be offline at the moment.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you are saying only a victim is allowed to press charges? And no one can be charged unless it is the victim pressing the charges? 🙄

Make a straight forward declaration of your own opinion and perspective on how instances of ~ or allegations of ~ sex abuse and child sex abuse - whether it be ongoing, or in the past - should be handled by institutions like the Catholic Church.