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@KellyJay saidWatch Trump at one of his rally's. Watch the MAGA crowd cheer when Trump spews out a blatant lie; they all cheer and scream while laughing and loving every minute of it (they worship it, and him).
Who worships sin? Typically, an object is worshiped, not an action or lack thereof.
Watch the crowd when he falsely cuts down a woman, minority, or even our war hero's for no reason; the MAGA crowd cheers and loves it etc (they worship it and him). Hardly anything Trump does follows the teachings of Christ. In fact, most of the things he is doing now are anti-Christ. Yet, no matter what, the MAGA supposed Christian crowd worships him no matter what evil he does.
Typically, an object is worshiped,
I worship Jesus. Is He an object to you? I much more worship Him with my actions and my love for Him and others than I do by simply repeating a bunch of mumbo-jumbo. Love is a Verb; God is Love.
@KingDavid403 saidYour fixation on Trump isn't healthy. Can people who support him go too far? Yes, not unlike those who don't. Anti-Christ are those who lead others away from Jesus Christ, and some even try to replace Him with someone else.
Watch Trump at one of his rally's. Watch the MAGA crowd cheer when Trump spews out a blatant lie; they all cheer and scream while laughing and loving every minute of it (they worship it, and him).
Watch the crowd when he falsely cuts down a woman, minority, or even our war hero's for no reason; the MAGA crowd cheers and loves it etc (they worship it and him). Hardly ...[text shortened]... r Him and others than I do by simply repeating a bunch of mumbo-jumbo. Love is a Verb; God is Love.
You are coloring a large number of people as evil just for supporting the candidate of their choice, and even suggesting they are worshiping a man in place of Jesus Christ. That is a false witness, a lie about people whose truth is blood bought by the blood of the lamb and has nothing more to do with politics than is necessary to be good citizens in their own way. Remember what Jesus said What you do to the least of these, you are doing to me, If you are not loving everyone, but instead justifying hate! Are you keeping the top two commands that Jesus gave us: Love God, and love one another? When you accused me of worshiping Trump, you were giving a false witness, that is, lying.
@KellyJay saidYour fixation on Trump isn't healthy.
Your fixation on Trump isn't healthy. Can people who support him go too far? Yes, not unlike those who don't. Anti-Christ are those who lead others away from Jesus Christ, and some even try to replace Him with someone else.
You are coloring a large number of people as evil just for supporting the candidate of their choice, and even suggesting they are worshiping a man in ...[text shortened]... another? When you accused me of worshiping Trump, you were giving a false witness, that is, lying.
Wrong again. My fixation is on the people being harmed by Trump and his worthless to God policies. If you can't stand the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen.
Anti-Christ are those who lead others away from Jesus Christ, and some even try to replace Him with someone else.
Now you're learning. 😉 😀
You are coloring a large number of people as evil just for supporting the candidate of their choice, and even suggesting they are worshiping a man in place of Jesus Christ.
You got that right. 🙂
That is a false witness,
Wrong again. It's truth.
When you accused me of worshiping Trump, you were giving a false witness, that is, lying.
First off, I don't think I personally accused you of worshipping Trump; if my words offended you, maybe you should take a look at that. Furthermore, Did you? or did you not? come in these forums recently defending Trump? And all in the name of Christ? Are you not defending those whom worship Trump now? This has nothing to do with what one voted for any longer. Everything he is doing is against everything that is taught in God's Holy Word, the Bible.
Get a clue numb-skull. 🙄
@KingDavid403 saidYou are very offensive.
Your fixation on Trump isn't healthy.
Wrong again. My fixation is on the people being harmed by Trump and his worthless to God policies. If you can't stand the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen.
Anti-Christ are those who lead others away from Jesus Christ, and some even try to replace Him with someone else.
Now you're learning. 😉 😀
...[text shortened]... oing is against everything that is taught in God's Holy Word, the Bible.
Get a clue numb-skull. 🙄
@KingDavid403 saidIf you think the way you treat others is the same way Jesus and the Apostles did when we stand before them, we will see.
You are very offensive.
So was Jesus and the Apostles to the Pharisees and religious leaders of that day. So were the Prophets to the people of their day. Your point?
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@KellyJay said"All have Sinned and fallen short of the glory of God; ALL but Jesus" [Paraphrased].
If you think the way you treat others is the same way Jesus and the Apostles did when we stand before them, we will see.
🙂 If that's all you got, I'm doing just fine. 😉
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@KellyJay saidSome scriptures for thought and discussion. 🙂
If you think the way you treat others is the same way Jesus and the Apostles did when we stand before them, we will see.
[Matthew 13:57 NKJV] 57 So they were offended at Him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house."
[Matthew 15:12 NKJV] 12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?"
[Mark 6:3 NKJV] 3 "Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are not His sisters here with us?" So they were offended at Him.
[Luke 7:23 NKJV] 23 "And blessed is [he] who is not offended because of Me."
[Matthew 15:1-20 NKJV] 1 Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, 2 "Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread." 3 He answered and said to them, "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 "For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' 5 "But you say, 'Whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me [is] a gift [to God]"-- 6 'then he need not honor his father or mother.' Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 "Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with [their] lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching [as] doctrines the commandments of men.' "
10 When He had called the multitude to [Himself], He said to them, "Hear and understand: 11 "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." 12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?" 13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 "Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch."
15 Then Peter answered and said to Him, "Explain this parable to us." 16 So Jesus said, "Are you also still without understanding? 17 "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? 18 "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. 19 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. 20 "These are [the things] which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."
@KingDavid403 saidI told you that what you were saying wasn’t true, and you doubled down with insults. I never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things. I’m not going to call you names or question your intelligence, or compare my personal righteousness to theirs.
"All have Sinned and fallen short of the glory of God; ALL but Jesus" [Paraphrased].
🙂 If that's all you got, I'm doing just fine. 😉
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@KellyJay saidI never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things.
I told you that what you were saying wasn’t true, and you doubled down with insults. I never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things. I’m not going to call you names or question your intelligence, or compare my personal righteousness to theirs.
So tell us KJ, did Jesus offend the scribes and Pharisees in God's Holy Word here?
Please read these verses all the way to the end. 🙂
I never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things
Then you have not read the Bible.
[Matthew 23:1-36 NKJV] 1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 "Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, [that] observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
4 "For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay [them] on men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 "But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments.
6 "They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7 "greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' 8 "But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.
9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 "And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 "But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 "And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in [yourselves], nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation. 15 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
16 "Woe to you, blind guides, who say, 'Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged [to perform it].' 17 "Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold? 18 "And, 'Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged [to perform it].' 19 "Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? 20 "Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21 "He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. 22 "And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.
23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier [matters] of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel! 25 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. 26 "Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead [men's] bones and all uncleanness. 28 "Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 "and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.' 31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' [guilt]. 33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: [some] of them you will kill and crucify, and [some] of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 "that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation."
So was Jesus offensive to the religious leaders of the law here KJ? Was Paul ever Offensive to the Religious leaders? Peter? James? etc? That's right, YES!
@KingDavid403 saidHe was admonishing those religious leaders for their hypocrisy, teachers of the law, and how they were falling short. Show me one scripture where they went after someone supporting a political party or politician. I can show you scripture where we are not to speak ill of our appointed leaders. Do you believe in those scriptures, or do you choose to ignore them?
I never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things.
So tell us KJ, did Jesus offend the scribes and Pharisees in God's Holy Word here?
Please read these verses all the way to the end. 🙂
I never read anywhere that Jesus and the Apostles did such things
Then you have not read the Bible.
[Matthew 23:1-36 NKJV] 1 Then Jesus spoke to t ...[text shortened]... here KJ? Was Paul ever Offensive to the Religious leaders? Peter? James? etc? That's right, YES!
@KellyJay saidHe was admonishing those religious leaders for their hypocrisy, teachers of the law, and how they were falling short.
He was admonishing those religious leaders for their hypocrisy, teachers of the law, and how they were falling short. Show me one scripture where they went after someone supporting a political party or politician. I can show you scripture where we are not to speak ill of our appointed leaders. Do you believe in those scriptures, or do you choose to ignore them?
No, Really?
Show me one scripture where they went after someone supporting a political party or politician.
I just did; when Jesus chewed out the religious leaders of that day. Israel was a theocracy at that time. The religious leaders were the politicians of Israel in that day; even when Rome occupied them.
I can show you scripture where we are not to speak ill of our appointed leaders.
You mean like how all you trumptarded worshippers talked about Obama, Hilary Clinton, or Harris, etc. You poor little trumptarded victims are so persecuted, eh?
Do you believe in those scriptures, or do you choose to ignore them?
This question goes to YOU first? Do you?
it's all about context son; all about context. 🙂
Please tell us all how you trumptards are so persecuted for the name of Trump? 😆
@KingDavid403 saidTake it up with the who died for us.
He was admonishing those religious leaders for their hypocrisy, teachers of the law, and how they were falling short.
No, Really?
Show me one scripture where they went after someone supporting a political party or politician.
I just did; when Jesus chewed out the religious leaders of that day. Israel was a theocracy at that time. The religious lead ...[text shortened]... t context. 🙂
Please tell us all how you trumptards are so persecuted for the name of Trump? 😆
@KellyJay saidTake it up with the who died for us.
Take it up with the who died for us.
You take it up with Jesus; you're the one sniveling about what victims trumptards are for worshipper their false god Humpty Trumpty. 🙂
@KingDavid403 saidFalse witnessing is a sin.
Take it up with the who died for us.
You take it up with Jesus; you're the one sniveling about what victims trumptards are for worshipper their false god Humpty Trumpty. 🙂